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    Default Modifer bug in keyclone? help

    ok - I might be doing something wrong. If someone would please see if they can duplicate this.

    if you want to use my kcl and macro then create two newb Draenei characters and walk into the the shipwreck where the level 1 trainers are.

    On test1 (main character - load test1.kcl) you can press #1-6 which correspond to LShift+1, RShift+1, LCtrl+1, RCtrl+1, LAlt+1, and RAlt+1 on the second character when test2.kcl is loaded.

    Code:
    test1
    k(49.0.0):hs(LSHIFT1)
    k(50.0.0):hs(RSHIFT1)
    k(51.0.0):hs(LCTRL1)
    k(52.0.0):hs(RCTRL1)
    k(53.0.0):hs(LALT1)
    k(54.0.0):hs(RALT1)
    Code:
    test2
    k(49.1.1):hs(LSHIFT1)
    k(49.2.2):hs(RSHIFT1)
    k(49.4.4):hs(LCTRL1)
    k(49.8.8):hs(RCTRL1)
    k(49.16.16):hs(LALT1)
    k(49.32.32):hs(RALT1)
    You can then load this macro on the second (test2) character:
    Code:
    /target [mod:lshift,target=Keilnei][mod:rshift,target=Kore][mod:lctrl,target=Firmanvaar][mod:rctrl,target=Valaatu][mod:lalt,target=Aurelon][mod:ralt,target=Zalduun][nomod,target=player]
    and bind it to key 1

    Now when pressing 1&2 from test1 char we see that it acts like is supposed to (it makes the distiction between LShift and RShift) but LCtrl (button3 on main) and RCtrl (4) always seems to send RCtrl

    LAlt(5) and RAlt(6) always sends LAlt.

    So LCtrl and RAlt are never being sent the way the hotstrings are asking them to be right?

    Or have I done something wrong here?

    Can someone verify this please?


    edit: clarified a few things - made it easier to read.

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    If you move to character2 (test2) and actually use LCtrl, RCtrl, LAlt, and RAlt you see the macro is working and targeting everyone like its supposed to.

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    Is this a common thing? Zanthor said the lavishsoft Repeater currently only does left and right shift and won't do seperate ctrl or alt.

    Anyone?

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    well don't know about keyclone and is:repeater, but hotkeynet differenciates fine between left and right alt, ctrl, shift.
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    I've noticed...

    If you press a single key, keyclone reacts as you'd expect.
    But if you do a combination then it depends on the order of the keypresses.

    If you were to go...

    Shift key (down)
    W key (down)
    W key (up)
    Shift key (up)

    You get a capital W.

    If you release them in a different order:

    Shift key (down)
    W key (down)
    Shift key (up)
    W key (up)

    You sometimes get unexpected behavior.
    But keyclone is working properly because it is broadcasting what you type.

    You might have "w" on the do-not-pass list, and not want that to broadcast.
    For example "w" is your default move-forward hotkey.. and you'd like your slaves to auto follow not move when your main moves.
    So "w" does not pass.

    Holding Shift down, might be bound to moving your alts together.
    So the first example where its, Shift-down, W-down, W-up, Shift-up moves your alts forward.
    But the second example seems to buggy because you're trying to shift-w to move your toons, but keyclone has been told to not pass certain keys.

    I've found if I have a wow macro, such as Shift-down, Tilde-down, Tilde-up, Shift-up and press in that order, as in modifier first down and last up, it works great. If the modifier and key follow an alternating sequence like Shift-down, Key-down, Shift-up, key-up, sometimes depending on your configuration you don't get the expected result.
    If you take the time to ensure your modifier is first down and last up, whenever you use modifiers you generally receive the expected result.

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    Thats not what is happening here guys.


    Please understand it has nothing to do with what you are sending from the main it has to do with what keyclone is handing out on the slave - When I tell it to give LCTRL it gives RCTRL - everytime - consistently.



    I only press a number WITHOUT a modifier (1-6 in the example above) and the hotstring is supposed to be sending a modifier. It sends LSHIFT, RSHIFT just fine but when I want to differentiate CTRL and ALT it will not. It always sends RCTRL - even when I ask it to send LCTRL and it always sends LALT even when I ask it to send RALT.


    If you have a character slot on two serperate accounts you can create two newbs and cut and paste the two kcl and macro to see exactly what I'm talking about.

    From character two, where the macro is, it acts appropriately when it is recieving the input directly through the keyboard - meaning it will target all 6 NPCs depending on which modifier you hold. **So I know the macro works as intended**

    But when sending hotstrings and it is supposed to be getting LCTRL is gets a RCTRL so the LCTRL is now worthless in any macro I would use it in.

    hmm... frustrating.


    i would think it is a simple bug in the code where it just is not translating the LCTRL into the actual keycode for LCTRL


    I just want someone else to duplicate it and confirm that it is indeed a bug in keyclone. Or maybe, because Zanthor said the Reapeater will not distinguish left and right ctrl or alt, it is a limitation of some sort?


    Thank you in advance to anyone willing to spend the 15 minutes to confirm this.

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    I haven't tested this, I'm busy absorbing allthe FTL and keyclone stuff.

    I will need this working to take advantage of Olipcs' idea given at Focusless, targetless, 'leaderless' setup.

    lalt+ralt+bump
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