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[zanthor]

I am currently looking at this, but what I can't seem to get a grasp on is changing one key to be sent as another, ie press A then sent to other clients as O. It was mentioned earlier in the thread that it was possible, but I have yet to find a solution. Any help would be great

To do this you would create a keybind:

bind nameofbind a relay all press o

This would make a bind named "nameofbind" (this is so you can delete it later if desired, just make it a descriptive name) when you press a that would tell all clients to press o

[Daleka]

I am currently looking at this, but what I can't seem to get a grasp on is changing one key to be sent as another, ie press A then sent to other clients as O. It was mentioned earlier in the thread that it was possible, but I have yet to find a solution. Any help would be great

To do this you would create a keybind:

bind nameofbind a relay all press o

This would make a bind named "nameofbind" (this is so you can delete it later if desired, just make it a descriptive name) when you press a that would tell all clients to press o

I knew it would be something so simple it would make me feel like an idiot. Next question, I am trying to set this up as a FTL that I already have set up in WoW. What command would it be to send a keybind to a specific client? Again, thanks for the help

example macro:

/assist
[mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt]ToonA;
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift]ToonB;
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl]ToonC;
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift]ToonD;
[mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift]ToonE
/cast [harm] Lightning Bolt
/targetlasttarget

[Lax]

I knew it would be something so simple it would make me feel like an idiot. Next question, I am trying to set this up as a FTL that I already have set up in WoW. What command would it be to send a keybind to a specific client? Again, thanks for the help

You should probably just come on IRC so we can answer your questions quickly instead of waiting for us to reply on forums

Crash course on relay, binds, and aliases:

the Relay command takes a number of different parameters, in place of "all". For example:

relay "all other" press Q

will make all other sessions press Q (all but the current)

relay is1 press Q

will make is1 press Q (the first session, as labelled in the window's title)

It's also possible to group sessions. For example, I have 1 resto and 4 elemental shaman, so on the resto shaman I join the healshaman group, and on the ele shamans I join the dpsshaman group, like so:

uplink relaygroup -join healshaman

or

uplink relaygroup -join dpsshaman

Then regardless of which session is active, say I'm having them all follow around a random elemental shaman while doing a collection quest, I can make all of the elemental shaman do a lightning bolt, etc like so:

relay dpsshaman press 2

(2 is my bolt key)

This can be as complex as you want it. I can make the same bind send a different key to the healshaman at the same time, e.g.

bind mynameofbind A "relay healshaman press 3;relay dpsshaman press 2"

The quotes are necessary because the ; (semi-colon) character will otherwise be interpreted when I enter the bind command, so the bind would end up as relay healshaman press 3 and then relay dpsshaman press 2 would be executed immediately (so they would press 2 now instead of when I hit the bind).

If you need to use quotes inside those quotes -- and this only applies to binds, because binds have special rules -- you should use aliases. An alias is a custom command that when you use one command, it routes it to another command. For example:

alias otherghostwolf "relay \"all other\" press alt+w"
bind otherghostwolf g7 otherghostwolf

The alias sets up a command calld otherghostwolf, that when executed, does this:

relay "all other" press alt+w

Then I used a bind, giving it the same name as the alias (bind names do not conflict with other names), to the g7 key in this example, so when pressed, all OTHER sessions will press alt+w (my ghost wolf bind in WoW)

What my actual bind is, to confuse you even more, is CTRL+ALT+W, to press it on ALL sessions including the current. However, since my ghost wolf bind locally is ALT+W and I'm holding down CTRL, a "press alt+w" gets interpreted by the game as CTRL+ALT+W. To solve this, I can press -release ctrl, like so:

bind ghostwolf ctrl+alt+w "press -release ctrl;press alt+w;otherghostwolf"

So on the local session, it will tell WoW I released the CTRL key, then it will press ALT+W, followed by the otherghostwolf alias which relays alt+w to the other sessions.

To round-robin, I make a set of aliases -- one per round-robin step. I have one "main" alias per set. For example, etotem1, etotem2, etotem3, etotem4, etotem5, and etotem. etotem starts off like so

alias etotem etotem1

And I make a bind for etotem

bind etotem G9 etotem

Then each step simply changes the etotem bind to the next step's alias (I have each guy do a different totem, and I expanded it beyond earth totems to also include 1 grounding totem and one wrath totem, so this is actually my generic totem button):

alias etotem1 relay is1 press 6;relay is2 press alt+6;relay is3 press alt+0;relay is4 press -;relay is5 press alt+=;alias etotem etotem2

That's step 1. Step 2 is the same thing, except I rotate different sessions in for different totems. My resto shaman obviously doesnt have totem of wrath since it's a talent, so I have one of the elemental shamans do it in what would be his place in the rotation. This in particular doesn't really need to be round-robin, but it works well for earth shock, frost shock and stomp. But, I can walk away from things and hit my etotem bind every so often and the earthbind totems keep things at bay fairly well.

Repeater is then used only for things that I haven't yet made a bind for, or quest turn-ins.

Edit: For "standard" FTL setups just include the proper modifiers for press in the relay, e.g. press shift+alt+2

[Daleka]

ya, i will definitely jump on irc as soon as I get home. Lots of drive time to browse the internet...hehe.

[moosejaw]

Regarding the USB XKey pro integration. I can get the key id's from the PI software and this should match the id's used for repeater correct?

I will print out the PI programming template to map out my key usage. Binding directly to the USB Xkeys and the G15 is going to make my setup so much easier.

[zanthor]

Regarding the USB XKey pro integration. I can get the key id's from the PI software and this should match the id's used for repeater correct?

I will print out the PI programming template to map out my key usage. Binding directly to the USB Xkeys and the G15 is going to make my setup so much easier.

My X-Keys (20 key model) didn't make sense on the keys, so I edited the InputDevices.XML file found in your IS install to name the keys more logically to me...

X1-X20 is what I renamed them to, It has entries for Buttons 0 through Button 87, and the order doesn't make any damn sense... but thats from the driver not IS.

[moosejaw]

Ah, ok. Maybe I will set up a translation map then rename them like you did. Thanks.

[moosejaw]

For Zanthor, When you keycapped on the usb xkey, did you use a bind for only one of the keys under the cap? It seems that with IS it should ignore any keypress that isn't bound. So binding one key should be safe/fine.

[zanthor]

For Zanthor, When you keycapped on the usb xkey, did you use a bind for only one of the keys under the cap? It seems that with IS it should ignore any keypress that isn't bound. So binding one key should be safe/fine.

I don't have any double keys capped.

[Daleka]

So after talking with Zanthor and Lax yesterday about some things, I decided to swap over to the Hydra set up in game. After working out some bugs, all I can say is wow. I kept it as basic as possible, being overly cautious about what I am doing, and keeping the TOS in mind. All I am using is Window Swapper, and repeater with a blacklist. One thing I don't like about Hydra is that you have to spam the focustarget macro whenever you change targets, that was one of the major selling points with a straight FTL setup. I did come up with a solution to this (assuming Zanthors Hydra setup is followed). It is pretty simple, instead of having a stand alone focustarget macro, just add "/target focustarget" at the begining of all spell macros.

Example:

/target focustarget
/cast Lightning Bolt

This allows for swapping of targets without having to hit an extra button every time.
Just thought I would throw this out there for everyone.