Innerspace Windowsnapper, Repeater, and a little extra sumptin sumptin

[moosejaw]

I was drafting an email to you Lax about a problem I was having but I solved it before I sent off the email.

My IS session numbering has been a little funky. Starting a game straight from the IS games menu will create 'IS1-ctrl-alt-1' then the next session started is 'IS3-ctrl-alt-3' and so on using the odd numbers.

I wiped my Innerspace install, downloaded and repatched. I still have the same issue. I made a new game menu entry with the 'add a game' selection and had the same result. This is really messing up the pip hotkeys when using ISBoxer.

I previously was using separate folders for Everquest 2 and the original folder had EAX setup with the Creative Alchemy app. I moved all my ISboxer sessions to start from the original install folder but I forgot about the EAX stuff. I guess EAX latching onto each session caused a 'fake' session to be created. I remembered something similar happening when I used XP compatability mode with Keyclone last year where an extra item would pop up on the task bar for the sound.

Just an FYI for those folks who may have this happen in the future and use the search function.

[Noah]

Thx for the update Lax.


Strobe following works well.

I was experiencing an issue last night that I have not had before. When using the mouse to click and select the window to swap to, the mouse repeating was activated. I work with mouse reapeating off unless I need it for a specific task.

I am guessing that I have tweaked a setting again, but I am unsure where to look. Any advice would be appreciated.



>> The mouse issue does not happen when the Repeater profile has the key repeat tickbox = ticked.

[Lax]

I was experiencing an issue last night that I have not had before. When using the mouse to click and select the window to swap to, the mouse repeating was activated. I work with mouse reapeating off unless I need it for a specific task.

Repeating will not be enabled unless you tell it to be. There is no capability built in to randomly enable it Switching to another window may have a different repeat state, as it can be set independently per window

Things to check:

1. Key/Mouse repeat enabled by default (these apply to all)
2. Send Next Click enabled in some Mapped Key that shouldn't have it enabled
3. Repeater hotkeys set for "Current Window" (as opposed to all windows, the bottom half of the hotkeys page) and Key/Mouse repeat enabled by default
4. Repeater State Actions enabling it for other windows that you may not have expected

[zanthor]

One thing Lax suggested that I LOVE is that instead of toggling repeater or keymaps on/off I use a keymap with two steps...

Step 1 - All Clients - > Keymap On
Step 1 - All Clients - > Light M1 On

Step 2 - All Clients - > Keymap Off
Step 2 - All Clients - > Light M1 Off

Instead of having the potential for clients to get out of sync each press puts ALL clients into a definitive state. Did the same thing with repeater and all my issues with out of sync settings went away!

[Crucial]

One thing Lax suggested that I LOVE is that instead of toggling repeater or keymaps on/off I use a keymap with two steps...

Step 1 - All Clients - > Keymap On
Step 1 - All Clients - > Light M1 On

Step 2 - All Clients - > Keymap Off
Step 2 - All Clients - > Light M1 Off

Instead of having the potential for clients to get out of sync each press puts ALL clients into a definitive state. Did the same thing with repeater and all my issues with out of sync settings went away!

I'm doing a similiar thing except I use three steps with a hotkey (I use the Pause key). I can just press the same key to cycle through the various states I use:

Step 1 - Repeater Mode (enables both keyboard and mouse repeating across all clients and disables any keymaps)
Action 1: Keymaps Off
Action 2: Repeater On
Action 3: Textbox showing "Repeat Mode" on screen in current window

Step 2 - Keymap Mode (only sends mapped keys specifically)
Action 1: Keymaps On
Action 2: Repeater Off
Action 3: Textbox showing "Keymap Mode" on screen in current window

Step 3: Chat Mode (single client mode... no repeating, so I can type whatever I want without affecting the other clients)
Action 1: Key Maps Off
Action 2: Repeater Off
Action 3: Textbox showing "Chatmode" in current window

This works great for me right now, but I'm open to suggestions on improvements.

[Noah]

Thx for the advice, I will keep tweaking.



I am really enjoying the Jamba intergration as well.

I think I came across a glitch last night.

My window swap setup utilises the set focus, follow and jamab strobe option.

As part of last nights gameplay, was setting up intract with Target.

On the Hot screen - all worked fine (Target, click a button telling others to assist, then interact). The glitch was as the other screens aquired a new target through assist, Jamba was or another action was trying to follow the new target. (lots of "cannot follow that unit type spam" in the hot window. The interact did work.

My original setup using jamba would always follow a set char regardless of target.

[Lax]

As part of last nights gameplay, was setting up intract with Target.

On the Hot screen - all worked fine (Target, click a button telling others to assist, then interact). The glitch was as the other screens aquired a new target through assist, Jamba was or another action was trying to follow the new target. (lots of "cannot follow that unit type spam" in the hot window. The interact did work.

My original setup using jamba would always follow a set char regardless of target.

Unless you have a custom follow macro or had Focus disabled, I'm not sure how you ran into this issue. However, I did an update to ISBoxer just now that should make this impossible unless you are actually trying to tell Jamba to follow your current target.

[Multibocks]

edit: got help and figured it out.

[Noah]

Feedback:

I got Interact with unit set up properly last night. The change you made has removed the target follow spam.

[Rebeis]

this might be me making a mistake, but for example i set up a keymap X to backpeedle all toons, except on my current Toon. works fine and all, untill i realized i was not able to use the letter X anymore while typing ?
Basicly the X hotkey was sending S to the other toons, so i didnt have to remap backward button on all toons. Is there a way to circumvent this bahavior or is it by design ?

/Rebeis