5 manning with vista or xp?

[hellsown]

this is what i have:

GT9800 OC
500 pwr supply
4 gigs ram
vista 32
dual core 3.2ghz

right now i am 4 boxing 4 shammies... :P my fps is ok until i run into a major cities..can run instances fine...with basically same fps..i use the console commands every time i load up..helps alot...i want to give 5boxing a shot now..do u think that i will have to reinstall xp? or can i partition the HD to have xp on it with WoW? and have it run even better as 4 man? or with 5 man??

I just ding'd my girls to 60 yesterday

[emesis]

You don't mention your hard drive setup, which tends to be the limiting factor on single machines runing multiple copies of WOW. In particular, the high I/O (multiple seeks) to a single hard drive when entering crowded areas.

I'm guessing you are using a single hard drive and do not have symlinks (Vista) or junction points (XP) setup?

The single best thing you can do to improve your city performance is setting up symlinks correctly. I finally got off my duff and did this last night on my Windows XP box for my 5-man team and the difference is flat out amazing in Shatt.

Some people use SSD (solid state disk) drives, which have the advantage of excelling at handling multiple concurrent seek requests (since they use electonic and not physical addressing); these are still fairly pricey and should be considered primarily after figuring out how to do symlinks.

The Wiki has information on setting up junction points/symlinks.

[hellsown]

Oh! i had no idea about this....Symlinks...i guess i am gonna have to do alot of researching it then..to figure it out..

thnks

[hellsown]

Instead of going into the long explaination, the easy way to become aquanted with the Symlink feature in Vista is to open up a command prompt and type 'Mklink /?' ,you will be presented with the necessary information for creating your own symlinks in Vista. So lets create one then...

Say for example we want to call the 'Music' folder in Vista "My Personal Music Collection" but we want that folder to appear at another location other that the default Vista location and we have some problems moving the 'Music' folder and we really don't mind if the actual folder stays at its default location, we just want a folder called "My Personal Music Collection" because we don't like the default Vista 'Music' name. Ok here is how we would do that. Additionally, lets say that our user name is 'Mickeymouse' (just for the heck of it).

(Open up a command prompt and type Mklink/?. That will give you information and the syntax of the command to create a symlink.)

1. Open command prompt in the place where you want to create the symlink, were going to use the root of the C:\ drive in this example but it can be anywhere you want..

2. type mklink /? for information. So if we want to create a symlink directory at the root of C:\;

mklink /J <the name of our link directory> <the target of our link>

so lets create a link directory named "My Personal Music Collection" at the root of C:\ with a target of the default C:\Users\Mickeymouse

mklink /J "My Personal Music Collection" "C:\Users\Mickeymouse"

If you now look in the root of the C:\ drive you will see what looks like a folder but really isn't, its not a shortcut either but we won't go into that in this post. You will be able to copy, save, paste, and do all the normal things you would do with an actual folder with your "My Personal Music Collection" symlink, but remember, the actual activity is taking place in the original "C:\Users\Mickeymouse"


Omg i just dont understand!

[pengwynman]

i used the powershell script from Chorizotarian... took me a few to get everything figured out because my setup is a little different but it saves a ton of time:
PowerShell script to create symbolically linked (mklink) copies of WoW

here's a thread about symlinking in XP if that's the route you'll be taking
[Other] Winbolic Guide - Symlinking for XP

[hellsown]

[/url]... took me a few to get everything figured out because my setup is a little different but it saves a ton of time:
PowerShell script to create symbolically linked (mklink) copies of WoW

here's a thread about symlinking in XP if that's the route you'll be taking
[Other] Winbolic Guide - Symlinking for XP

i got it downloaded....and installed..and i ran as admin.....................know idea how to get started...want to learn it....as pc's are my passion...but...just need a step in right direction...

3) Set your script execultion policy to run local scripts without a digital signature:
# Get-Help About_Signing
# Set-ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned
# 4) Copy New-Wow.ps1 to somewhere in your path OR replace "new-wow" in the examples below
# with the script path.
#
# Examples:
# Copy default WoW location to c:\wow1:
# new-wow c:\wow1
#
# Copy default WoW location to c:\wow1 and c:\wow2:
# new-wow c:\wow1,c:\wow2
#
# Copy existing cuctem WoW location c:\wow1 to c:\wow2 and c:\wow3:
# new-wow c:\wow2,c:\wow3 -sourcePath c:\wow1
#
# If the script is not in your path:
# c:\somedir\new-wow.ps1 c:\wow1
#
# You can also use switches (standard PowerShell functionality
# new-wow -path c:\wow1,c:\wow2,c:\wow3 -source c:\oldwow
#
# Please be careful with -force -- it will automatically delete everything under the destination
# path:
# new-wow c:\wow1 -force
# ^-- *** deletes c:\wow1 and replaces it with a new copy of WoW! ***

[pengwynman]

i got it downloaded....and installed..and i ran as admin.....................know idea how to get started...want to learn it....as pc's are my passion...but...just need a step in right direction...

3) Set your script execultion policy to run local scripts without a digital signature:
# Get-Help About_Signing
# Set-ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned
# 4) Copy New-Wow.ps1 to somewhere in your path OR replace "new-wow" in the examples below
# with the script path.
#
# Examples:
# Copy default WoW location to c:\wow1:
# new-wow c:\wow1
#
# Copy default WoW location to c:\wow1 and c:\wow2:
# new-wow c:\wow1,c:\wow2
#
# Copy existing cuctem WoW location c:\wow1 to c:\wow2 and c:\wow3:
# new-wow c:\wow2,c:\wow3 -sourcePath c:\wow1
#
# If the script is not in your path:
# c:\somedir\new-wow.ps1 c:\wow1
#
# You can also use switches (standard PowerShell functionality
# new-wow -path c:\wow1,c:\wow2,c:\wow3 -source c:\oldwow
#
# Please be careful with -force -- it will automatically delete everything under the destination
# path:
# new-wow c:\wow1 -force
# ^-- *** deletes c:\wow1 and replaces it with a new copy of WoW! ***

first off, you need to add a folder to your windows path (you can put scripts in this folder and run them from the command line)

1. Click Start and choose Control Panel
2. Click System, on the right you’ll see “View basic information about your computer”
3. On the left is a list of tasks, the last of which is “Advanced system settings.” Click that.
4. The Advanced tab of the System Properties dialog box is shown. Click the Environment Variables button on the bottom right.
5. In the lower box titled “System Variables” scroll down to Path and click the Edit button.
6. Change your path as need be.
7. you may need to restart your comp

-after you have a path set up (i used C:\bin as mine), copy the new-wow file to that path and change the extension from .txt to .ps1
-run powershell as admin
-run the following command: Set-ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned
-now you can run the new-wow script using the examples... my primary wow folder isn't in C:\program files, so this is what i used:
new-wow c:\Games\symwow\wow1 -sourcePath "C:\Games\WoW"

[Suvega]

Hey hellsown,

The computer should be fine for 5boxing on it, and I would recommend Windows Vista 64bit, for hte following reasons:
1) Symlink advice above
2) You state you ahve 4 gb of physical memory. This in combination to the video memory would be in excess of 4gb, which means it is impossible to use all of it in a 32bit OS.

Windows Vista 64bit is really a great operating system, I use it on all 5 of my computers. It was designed for NEW computers, and you want to ENSURE you have up to date drivers. Beyond that you shouldnt' have much issues

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Hey hellsown,

The computer should be fine for 5boxing on it, and I would recommend Windows Vista 64bit, for hte following reasons:
1) Symlink advice above
2) You state you ahve 4 gb of physical memory. This in combination to the video memory would be in excess of 4gb, which means it is impossible to use all of it in a 32bit OS.

Windows Vista 64bit is really a great operating system, I use it on all 5 of my computers. It was designed for NEW computers, and you want to ENSURE you have up to date drivers. Beyond that you shouldnt' have much issues

Good advice here, though symlinking will work fine on XP and Vista 32 as well (It's what I use on 3 of my boxes).

Your PC should be just fine as-is if you're short on cash for the OS upgrade.

[hellsown]

Hey hellsown,

The computer should be fine for 5boxing on it, and I would recommend Windows Vista 64bit, for hte following reasons:
1) Symlink advice above
2) You state you ahve 4 gb of physical memory. This in combination to the video memory would be in excess of 4gb, which means it is impossible to use all of it in a 32bit OS.

Windows Vista 64bit is really a great operating system, I use it on all 5 of my computers. It was designed for NEW computers, and you want to ENSURE you have up to date drivers. Beyond that you shouldnt' have much issues

Hey hellsown,

The computer should be fine for 5boxing on it, and I would recommend Windows Vista 64bit, for hte following reasons:
1) Symlink advice above




2) You state you ahve 4 gb of physical memory. This in combination to the video memory would be in excess of 4gb, which means it is impossible to use all of it in a 32bit OS.

Windows Vista 64bit is really a great operating system, I use it on all 5 of my computers. It was designed for NEW computers, and you want to ENSURE you have up to date drivers. Beyond that you shouldnt' have much issues

Good advice here, though symlinking will work fine on XP and Vista 32 as well (It's what I use on 3 of my boxes).

Your PC should be just fine as-is if you're short on cash for the OS upgrade.

ty every1...for replying...really appreciate it...

i can upgrade to vista 64..$ not a problem...if necessary...but does 64, take up more ram to run..like 32 takes 2 gigs i believe some1 told me.....i also found source of my lag problem....i think...for some reason when patch rolled out i had trouble reinstalling wow at the time..and ended up putting pre-bc version..in program files..and the tbc..ended up on c:\ drive..but hopefully...with symlinking..or with the pwershell script....it will be incredible....as i cant imagine now going back to solo'ing...lol