Are raids too easy?

[Skuggomann]

Has enny one else felt this?

I did a semi pug on MH and BT, full clear with no problems. Got soem T6 on my rouge that has less than 1D in /played.
Even KJ got pugged on my server XD

[Ellay]

I'd say it's more fun than anything

[valkry]

Yes, way too easy. Boss kills from that patch onwards don't really count in my eyes.

I know a BT uild that stepped into Sunwell for the first time after clearing BT in 2 hours, 1 shotting kalec and brutallus, then going in next night and downing everything else, including KJ to 17% on their first try, down on the 2nd try...that's not progression, that's like t6 people going back to MC, there is some difficulty but in reality it is a pushover.

[Tasty]

I'm with Ellay on this one. Raids are heaps fun now

[Style1one]

lol my old server still hasnt cleared sunwell yet lol.... horde barly cleared bt by june this year, though the allience had it on farm for a year now but now horde is further into sunwell (before patch) lol

[Zub]

you guys do understand that they did this so that more people actually see the content right?
They haven't made the raids easier for the raiders, they made them easier for the semi-casuals the last 3 weeks of the Burning Crusade to give everyone a chance to see those bosses before the great exodus to Northrend.
In 2 months all those TBC raids will be rarely visited.

[Tasty]

In 2 months all those TBC raids will be rarely visited.

Says you!!!!

[valkry]

It's not the talents that break the encounters, it's the hp/dmg reduction of a boss that breaks it. Hydross, Bloodboil, Teron, Mother Sharaz, Illidary Council, Illidan, Vashj, Kael...all these once hard bosses are now massively simplified and in many cases now a tank/spank.

It's kinda like the 2nd boss in AQ20. You used to have to kite it over eggs to dmg it and was a huge dps race at at the end, but now you just tank/spank it til it dies 30 seconds later.

[Kel]

Yes raids are much easier post-patch as much of the content can now be brute forced through (my guild did Bloodboil, RoS, Sha'rahz and Council for the first time after the patch having never tried them before - and having no shadow res for mother).

I like the change, I'd have never been able to see Illidan had they not made the content easier (server issues meant we couldn't kill him - but there's still time) at the same time the kills aren't as much of an achievement now as they used to be, but I don't think people would be motivated enough at this point in the game to spend countless hours wiping on the same boss. So at least it means there's more chance of raiding continuing up until the patch (I remember pre-BC when my guild couldn't raid anything in the weeks leading up to the expansion because everyone was too busy pvping).

[merujo]

You're playing 41 talent point tuned raids with a 51 point tree.

along with boss's with less 30% the hp they had, that hit less 30% than they used too.