Incoming Pally Nerfs that Affect Tanks

[valkry]

Was that before or after cheapshot/kidney shot/gouge/blind/sap, tasty?

[Tdog]

Already switched to a warrior tank. Better than Pallies even for MB'ing imho at this point. Much MUCH more fun and so many more tools most of which can be easily macro'ed together.

[Tasty]

Already switched to a warrior tank. Better than Pallies even for MB'ing imho at this point. Much MUCH more fun and so many more tools most of which can be easily macro'ed together.

I like the BoK for my mages and the extra HoJ etc helps as well

[valkry]

I prefer the pallies as my tank for the buffs, the better aoe tanking/dmg, the awesome array of new threat generating spells, 3 mob taunt, ranged pull and much higher burst threat at the start. Also, pally tanks take more consistant damage, relying more on blocks to reduce damage than parries/dodges.

[Iceorbz]

My ret pally mate who raided with us was equal dps with rogues when put in the same group as them. I've said it before, ret was a great spec for pros to excel in and be up there, but now any noob in greens who can roll he face over the keyboard can pump out over 1k dps. It's a shame, because they will be known like the huntards now...ret-ards.

As for pvp, there are 3 classes who mana drain, but pvp is rock, paper scissors. You aren't meant to be able to beat every other class (unless you are a rogue).

Give pallies a closing spell imo (in fact, make their ranged taunt a DK/scorpian like move, would help to draw mobs to the consecration as well). That would shut a lot of them up and balance pvp. Then they could combine the closing spell with a stun, then when that wears off BoF (HoF now), have a small window of when they are kiteable (every class has to have a weakness) then be able to close again, stun, HoF again.

PS: Probably not their taunt, the cd is a bit too short for pvp use

A closing spell? Hammer of Justice ? Judgment of justice ? Runspeed from ret? Crusader aura ? Cleanse, bubble, freedom? What more do they really need for closing range on someone.