Quote Originally Posted by 'valkry',index.php?page=Thread&postID=140169#post1 40169
My ret pally mate who raided with us was equal dps with rogues when put in the same group as them. I've said it before, ret was a great spec for pros to excel in and be up there, but now any noob in greens who can roll he face over the keyboard can pump out over 1k dps. It's a shame, because they will be known like the huntards now...ret-ards.

As for pvp, there are 3 classes who mana drain, but pvp is rock, paper scissors. You aren't meant to be able to beat every other class (unless you are a rogue).

Give pallies a closing spell imo (in fact, make their ranged taunt a DK/scorpian like move, would help to draw mobs to the consecration as well). That would shut a lot of them up and balance pvp. Then they could combine the closing spell with a stun, then when that wears off BoF (HoF now), have a small window of when they are kiteable (every class has to have a weakness) then be able to close again, stun, HoF again.

PS: Probably not their taunt, the cd is a bit too short for pvp use
A closing spell? Hammer of Justice ? Judgment of justice ? Runspeed from ret? Crusader aura ? Cleanse, bubble, freedom? What more do they really need for closing range on someone.