Ridiculously low shaman pvp dps

[magwo]

Pre-patch I was always top damage dealer in BGs.

Now.. look at some numbers in an EOTS where I totally dominated (remember I'm almost full S4 and enchants, epic gems):

My shaman: 140k dmg done, 14-15 KBs
Warlock mate in S1+S2: 210k dmg done
Retri pala: 351k damage done, 33 KBs


Say what? WHAT?

[Pikey]

It's a gibfest. Everyone can get 2 shotted. Yes pld are strong but it's not their insane dps that making the win. I find its the 7 second stun on a 20 second cooldown with a bubble makes them more immune to the gibing.

before the patch I could compete, but now I feel like a non-twink in a twink premade. The dps is just insane. PLds haven't been a problem for me its the warriors with the 100yrd intercept and the whirlwind that makes them immune to CC.

Also before the patch my comp ran 5 accounts of WoW fine 40fps main 15fps background, now its crap with just 4 accounts at 30 fps main 6-8 fps background, I am constantly losing /follow takes me 10 minutes to go anywhere. I have been playing single shaman just to get use to new spells and the fact that I have never play shaman before : )

[Maxion]

Oh hey there Pahwah, Hoovening here

[Pikey]

Hey hoove :P

[Littleburst]

We're squishy like hell. I liked pvp pre 3.0 A LOT more. Now a ret paladin and a warrior can kill me if they're in melee range before i can start attacking them. The push back on Chain heal is so bad that i pretty much can't heal. And they seem to be immume to thunderstorm's knockback?

Just got ganked time after time after time by a fire mage, arms warr in i think T6 and a ret.

Resilience got 'balanced' to meet lvl 80 i think? Since it's almost as if i hardly have any, but still having 343 doesn't seem to reduce incoming damage.

Anyone else experiencing this? Or am i just whining?

[Hachoo]

What do you mean the pushback is so bad that you can't heal? Pushback was nerfed severely, you can only get pushed back twice and then further hits do nothing.

[Littleburst]

What do you mean the pushback is so bad that you can't heal? Pushback was nerfed severely, you can only get pushed back twice and then further hits do nothing.

doh, didn't knew that. Wierd, never noticed it. A mage spamming AE made it pretty much impossible to finish a spell.

I'll have a look at that

[Tidomann]

I think it was just that everyone was specced nature's swiftness reducing the pushback on heals.. Now that most people are a variation of 51/10 or something long those lines, we do get some pushback on chain heal, but it is stil alot less than if the changes to pushback have not taken place..

I think he's alluding more to the fact, that if like me.. It's sketch to see if your undergeared shaman team isn't going to whipe before the warrior who is LOLing with his soulcleaver with bladestorm is in your face before the chain heal (that you may have been casting right before bladestorm started) goes off.. Usually this happens when TS is off cooldown so my fire nova earth shock combo isn't enough to kill him.. So I either risk losing 1-2 shamans by casting a LB, or trying to keep them up for another earthshock spam with chain heal... If TS is up, just nuke it. They'll die fast.

[Littleburst]

I think it was just that everyone was specced nature's swiftness reducing the pushback on heals.. Now that most people are a variation of 51/10 or something long those lines, we do get some pushback on chain heal, but it is stil alot less than if the changes to pushback have not taken place..

I think he's alluding more to the fact, that if like me.. It's sketch to see if your undergeared shaman team isn't going to whipe before the warrior who is LOLing with his soulcleaver with bladestorm is in your face before the chain heal (that you may have been casting right before bladestorm started) goes off.. Usually this happens when TS is off cooldown so my fire nova earth shock combo isn't enough to kill him.. So I either risk losing 1-2 shamans by casting a LB, or trying to keep them up for another earthshock spam with chain heal... If TS is up, just nuke it. They'll die fast.

The thing is, i'm not really undergeared. 2 parts S2, 1 S3, 1 S4. Belt,neck,bracers are S4. Sitting a bit above 300 resi with 9,6k HP and 989 spelldamage And i still feel like i´m lvl 60 and getting owned by a 70 warr/ret.

Haven't pvp'd to try things with the nerfed pushback though. Only some pvp on QD and kara..

[Hachoo]

I've been testing a bit more... LB feels slightly less, CL feels like its doing more damage. Thunderstorm x5 didn't seem that good until I modified my macro to use elemental mastery x5 then thunderstorm x5 much better now. For the rotating TSes I don't use ele mastery though.

Anyway I think we'll get better but the damage definitely feels nerfed a bit right now.