Raidboxers, why shamans?

[thinus]

Tell them to follow the leader, they'll all face him and you can spread out from there.

Have you ever done Gruul? You are knocked back into a random location and snared. The raid has something like 5s to get completely spread out to avoid blowing each other up. You don't have time to follow and then spread out, you might not even be in range to follow. The problem is not just with your boxing team but your positioning relative to the rest of the raid as well. You simply cannot position each character properly in the time given. There is barely enough time to position just 1 character.

The only way you can do this as a boxer in a 25 man raid is if, like Valkery said, you can find spots where you can avoid the knockback for all your characters. It will be up to the rest of the raid to get the hell away from your clones. The closer two characters are together the more damage they take so a lot of the time the challenge is not to avoid the damage completely but to minimize the amount of damage you take.

What about the cave-ins? Or does it only hit melee or can it easily be healed through these days? Haven't done Gruul in forever.

[valkry]

Tell them to follow the leader, they'll all face him and you can spread out from there.

Have you ever done Gruul? You are knocked back into a random location and snared. The raid has something like 5s to get completely spread out to avoid blowing each other up. You don't have time to follow and then spread out, you might not even be in range to follow. The problem is not just with your boxing team but your positioning relative to the rest of the raid as well. You simply cannot position each character properly in the time given. There is barely enough time to position just 1 character.

The only way you can do this as a boxer in a 25 man raid is if, like Valkery said, you can find spots where you can avoid the knockback for all your characters. It will be up to the rest of the raid to get the hell away from your clones. The closer two characters are together the more damage they take so a lot of the time the challenge is not to avoid the damage completely but to minimize the amount of damage you take.

What about the cave-ins? Or does it only hit melee or can it easily be healed through these days? Haven't done Gruul in forever.

It can always be easily healed through...oh, sorry, that is assuming if the nubs actually decide to stop facerolling the keyboard mashing their dps buttons, look at their hp status every once in a while and actually gtfo of it.

Gruul is so easy when 3-4 people (ranged dps) each go to one of the boulders around the edge before the knockback then spread out during the 5 seconds of slowing, leaving the middle for the melee...25 man gruul wth no deaths is an awesome achievement imo (only done it once though, people stopped caring after he was on farm). The trick is to not spread out from everybody, but to make sure you are only in range of 1 person. With people paired up, you double the room to spread out in, and the dmg from 1 person nearby is like 1-3k max.

As for kara in t3...the top Chineese guild downed Illy D whilst still wearing t3. The speed in which they reached him also played a part too though lol.

[Vyndree]

What about the cave-ins? Or does it only hit melee or can it easily be healed through these days? Haven't done Gruul in forever.

They do indeed hit ranged.

[Tasty]

Depends. What are the boss mechanics? And if they are not ideal mechanics, do these shammies vastly outgear the content?

I'm hoping they make the raids in WotlK at least a little boxer friendly I don't mean entire tank n spank fights either

[Tasty]

Depends. What are the boss mechanics? And if they are not ideal mechanics, do these shammies vastly outgear the content?

I'm hoping they make the raids in WotlK at least a little boxer friendly I don't mean entire tank n spank fights either

Blues have said they want raids fights to be less about aggro management and more about strategy and movement.

So... take that for what it is. Life could get harder for us.

Aggro management isn't all that hard for boxers is it? You don't have to yell over vent to stop dps you just stop pushing your lightning bolt button

[valkry]

Depends. What are the boss mechanics? And if they are not ideal mechanics, do these shammies vastly outgear the content?

I'm hoping they make the raids in WotlK at least a little boxer friendly I don't mean entire tank n spank fights either

Blues have said they want raids fights to be less about aggro management and more about strategy and movement.

So... take that for what it is. Life could get harder for us.

Sounds like Sunwell. And Blues have also said they won't be making any raids as rediculus as Sunwell again.