Valkry,
I'm going to have to side with Vyndree on this one and state that you misintrepreted my point. I was responding to the initial thread topic, "Raidboxers, why shamans?"; the subject in itself poses the question, "As a raidboxer, why would you select a team composed of all shaman?" To setup my response, I used examples of other "raid"boxers (raidboxer being a subjective word, but I would think that we can consider a raid boxer to be anyone who has enough characters to fill a "raid" - whether it be a 10 man, 25 man, or 40 man; having an amount of characters equal to the raid ceiling would = "raidboxer"). The examples that I used were of Sam and Prepared, both of whom have teams largely comprised of shaman. And, while they both (especially Prepared) have other characters, at last glance, Sam runs all shaman and one paladin. A raidboxer would not be someone who only plays one character at a time, hence, that wouldn't make sense in the "boxer" context (which, I believe that we can all agree that someone who is touted as a "boxer" runs more than one character at a time).
Under that preface, my statements which questioned the viability and survival likelyhood of one person decimating bosses would hold true. Is it not true that one person playing 25 characters can single-handedly destroy Archimonde or any boss that requires a high level of coordination and percision? What about Mother Sharaz? What we have to understand here is that Blizzard intentionally builds encounters around certain classes; they have tried (sometimes for better or worse) to make it so every class has a role in a raid. That is not to say that a warrior tank should be required for a raid, but it is to say that a plate-type character (druid, warrior, paladin, and now even a Death Knight), should be required. Since encounters have been designed around these premises, it is imparative that you bring a "raid" composed of certain classes. Also, if you're level 80 and overgearing an encounter, most of these premises fail. When Oxynia was a "big deal" (excuse the slang), you didnt see 1 level 60 character soloing her; nor would you see 5 level 60 characters accomplishing the feat. People could not solo Oxynia until they learned the encounter and (eventually) outgeared/outleveled the encounter. The same holds true for every encounter in WoW. Would it be fun to take 25-40 characters at level 80 out to Doom Lord Kazzak and slay him in 10 casts? Sure. Does that mean that your 25-shaman team is viable for slaying the Lich King? No, and even if it were, if we look at the "end-game" encounters historacially, we can assume (yes, we can assume this by looking at past encounters) the encounter will surely require more than one tank.
Also, in my post, I had made a mention of the outdoor bosses, which I already pointed out - could be done by a raidboxer, with a team of x-class. Sorry if I didn't make my post as lucid as I would have intended; I was eating lunch at the time
. I think that I may have ruffled some of your feathers, as your personal attack of "thinking outside the box" was a bit unwarranted, given the context of my post and the subject of the original author. Again, if we could, as Vyndree put it, "brute force" bosses, most of us would complete the WoTLK expansion at a record pace. Also, every guild would be a "top" guild, if all that we needed to do was stand in one spot and press a nuke key.
Cheers.
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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=138311#p ost138311
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