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  1. #1

    Default Keyclone - Got an email from a Blizzard friend

    Hello,

    I spoke to a friend at Blizzard who works in their UI Development and he gave me a heads up.

    Keyclone might become automatically bannable by Blizzard's Warden client.

    The reason is because Keyclone is starting to perform actions that are approaching or are already against the TOS.

    Acceptable Example:
    Keyclone takes SHIFT+F1 and syndicates it to multiple wow.exe windows. This is simply key broadcasting which is fine.

    UNACCEPTABLE, BANNABLE EXAMPLE:
    Keyclone can assist with logging you into World of Warcraft. This require s file editing by an outside client, apparently gray or against the TOS.

    To the Keyclone guy:

    You might want to consider removing anything that could remotely cause Blizzard to frown upon Keyclone, such as editing any game files, including ones that can be edited manually.

    UPDATE:

    Hey guys, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just relaying something that was told to me.

    The email I have says this:

    Quote:
    "Keyclone violates the TOS by its new method to log you into the game, so watch out, word is that a new signature for keyclone will be added to the list soon"


    Somebody said here that Keyclone edits a file, perhaps that is what the issue is?

    BTW, for all those disbelievers, I am an avid keyclone fan. I'm 5-boxing Shamans right now Smile

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    lol @ you.

    Whats your name again... forgot but its something related to you representing the WoW GMs and the warden rules... ya sure.

  3. #3

    Default Re: Keyclone - Going to be banned by Blizzard's Warden soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilseed
    Hello,

    I spoke to a friend at Blizzard who works in their UI Development and he gave me a heads up.

    Keyclone will soon become automatically bannable by Blizzard's Warden client.

    The reason is because Keyclone is starting to perform actions that are now becoming BOT like by automating your WoW activities.

    Acceptable Example:
    Keyclone takes SHIFT+F1 and syndicates it to multiple wow.exe windows. This is simply key broadcasting which is fine.

    UNACCEPTABLE, BANNABLE EXAMPLE:
    Keyclone can automatically log you into World of Warcraft. This is considering gameplay automation.

    To the keyclone guy:

    Please immediately remove this functionality and STOP ANY PLANNED OR EXISTING functionality that has even the slightest amount of automation in it.
    Keyclone can't automatically log you in.

    Keyclone simply edits a flat text file on your system, a task you can accomplish with NOTEPAD.EXE, and puts an account name in it. This is not modifying the game, not automating anything. It's a feature already functionally possible by copying the game client for each different copy of wow you want to play.
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    im sure the poster of this thread hasnt used keyclone in any way at all, and only posted this to gain a little attention.

    but however, keyclone just copies the method that blizzard have been using for ages within their own client.

    if you take the time to open up the config.wtf located in the account folder, you'll see a parameter something similar too SET accountName "accountname"

    so if the keyclone method is classed as botting for remember the account names, then im sure blizzard better fire themselves first.

    <----- DOOR.

    and btw, i've got a friend of a friend that has a friend that lives with a cousin that has a friend thats got a friend that spoke to a girlfriend of his friend that knows someone of a friend that works at blizzard too, and he said omg, you spent all that cash on a multiplexer to 3 box, why didnt you just get keyclone.

  5. #5

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    Hey guys, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just relaying something that was told to me.

    The email I have says this:

    "Keyclone violates the TOS by its new method to log you into the game, so watch out, word is that a new signature for keyclone will be added to the list soon"
    Somebody said here that Keyclone edits a file, perhaps that is what the issue is?

    BTW, for all those disbelievers, I am an avid keyclone fan. I'm 5-boxing Shamans right now

  6. #6

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    thats told to you buy a disgruntled player who cant keyclone.


    the term new signature shows that he knows close to nothing about the issue.



    However for you, read these forums a bit more and learn what its all about before your believe your friend.

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    [quote]
    Quote Originally Posted by sherkas
    thats told to you buy a disgruntled player who cant keyclone.
    Your comment has no impact on the situation. I am simply relaying a message told to me from Blizzard.

    the term new signature shows that he knows close to nothing about the issue.
    You should research how Warden works. Once you do, you'll eat your words. To help you understand, know that a "signature" is simply something unique that can identify something. Taken from the context of the quote I said, it is pretty clear that Warden (Blizzard's detection/ban system), has a list of "signatures" it compares against to identify softwares or mechanisms that are in place. Quite simple.

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    So don't run warden...

    Thats easy enough, since Warden is part of the Launcher...
    [> Sam I Am (80) <] [> Team Doublemint <][> Hexed (60) (retired) <]
    [> Innerspace & ISBoxer Toolkit <][> Boxing on Blackhand, Horde <]
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    i called a friend at blizzard.. he hadn't heard this, but will look into it further and get the official answer on this. (hopefully)

    in the TOS, whenever someone says to me. a developer, that i shouldn't modify game files, that would normally mean the binary, dlls, graphics, audio, tcp/udp stream, or memory... basically anything at run time.

    i only modified a config file, which other addons and applications do... and anyone with notepad can do as well. is that automation? hardly. it just saves you from having to have multiple copies of wow laying around.

    none of the changes effect in-game actions at all... only pre-game settings.

    if they want it out, i'll remove it... no problem

  10. #10

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanthor
    So don't run warden...

    Thats easy enough, since Warden is part of the Launcher...
    Wrong, you uninformed idiot, if you don't know what you are talking about then please STFU.

    As for the automated login, regarding TOS, I can see how it could be interpreted as against the rules. I'd personally suggest removing this feature for now. Yeah it might mean that some of you have to spend an extra minute logging in, but hell, isn't it worth it to keep keyclone off the Blizzard ban-radar?
    Wilbur

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