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    Default Post patch test run of my elemental 5 box. What happened??

    I did not get much time to test dps and such on the beta, or on the test realm before this last tuesdays patch..... However..

    After getting my UI up and running again, respecing, and double checking that my gear was still relevant to the spec on my 5 box elemental shaman team.... I am left feeling sad, and appalled at the same time at the amount of dps I have lost.
    It is coming out to be roughly a 20% + loss in my dps in pvp and pve. When I compaired its perfromance to my boomkin and frost mages teams, whom are both, not as well equipped as my Shamans.. I was shocked further. Their dps is now larger then my shaman team by a further margin of nearly 20%. Especially devastating is my Frost mage team. With them I am currently killing full season 4 geared players with single frost bolt volleys with OUT using a cool down or trinket.
    Getting to my question... Is this an intended change, and can I expect this horrid performance on my shaman, and steller power on my mages and boomkins to remain reality at level 80? Is it time to retire the old shaman team, and go with the mages and druids permanently as my mains now?
    Stonemaul: Tauren Druid Team - Naturesbliss (D80), Naturesmight (D80), Naturespeace (D80), Naturesrest (D80), Sundra (D80)
    Undead Mage Team - Ahris (M80) Liberty (M77), Jusstice (M76), Alligence (M76), Forall (M76)
    Orc Female Shaman (ele) Team - Aarrinah (S80), Barrinah (S80), Carrinah (S80), Darrinah (S80), Earrinah (S80)
    Undead Death Knight Team: Ahriness (DK 80), x4 level 73 working toward 80.
    Blood Elf Paladin Team: Ahri (80), Bhri (36), Chrii (36), Dhri (36), Palaadin (65)

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    I would like to offer the counterpoint that I didn't see a ~20% loss but an increase according to recount.

    When I did my heroics pre 3.0 I was around 1100dps now that 3.0.2 hit I am sitting at 1300dps.

    Do you have any +haste stuff? I am not sure but I have a feeling that this has something to do with my increase in dps.
    [spoiler][/spoiler]Shaone,Shatwo,Shathree,Shafour,Shafive
    <Zero Tolerance>
    Level: 70
    Server: Azgalor
    Race: Orc / Blood Elf

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    Maybe you need to adjust your spec or spell rotations?

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    with my current shaman spec I do a LB LB CL rotation (with more haste it could be LB CL as the cooldown is pretty low with talents) and my shaman lost about 100dps, not huge... but considering some of the dps numbers I see thrown around by druids/mage/rogue/warriors I don't feel so warm and fuzzy inside.

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    I agree, but only because of the immense buffs to damage output that many other classes have recevied. We are now fairly weak and fragile among the burst dps of retripalas and mages.
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. -- Albert Einstein
    EINSTEIN SUX WHENS RNG!

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    I posted this in another thread...

    Blizzard has made elemental shaman a little underpowered at 70 because of the new spell lava burst at 75. They have balanced the spec around it and have based dps around lava burst at 80. So you will just have to hang in there until 75 to be on par with other classes dps.

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    I understand the above, however we get to sit at 70 for a month underpowered and then at 80 underpowered (even though some seem to think LvB will make up for it, it won't) Go check beta characters raids and cry when you see elemental shaman 1k dps below the rest of raid and barely above tanks. I'm not holding out that it will change, blue seems to think our damage is fine(even with many many reports of our dmg being low) so in that regard I started leveling alt teams.... just in case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Multibocks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=135797#p ost135797
    I understand the above, however we get to sit at 70 for a month underpowered and then at 80 underpowered (even though some seem to think LvB will make up for it, it won't) Go check beta characters raids and cry when you see elemental shaman 1k dps below the rest of raid and barely above tanks. I'm not holding out that it will change, blue seems to think our damage is fine(even with many many reports of our dmg being low) so in that regard I started leveling alt teams.... just in case.
    It will get adjusted, the developers have already said that they want all DPS classes and specs to be within 5% DPS of each other. So if elemental shaman are 10% behind the rest at 80, they will get buffed to be within 5%.

    They have also already stated that the current status of DPS is not to be concerned about because this patch is balanced towards level 80 not 70.

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    I'm not holding my breath, they have multiple reports and every time a blue responds to a shaman thread it's usually something along the lines of "we are happy with elemental dps, in fact LB dps may be too high, oh and you have totems." Anyways, I saw the new build on beta and druid balance got BUFFED even more, ridiculous, but at the same time makes me happy I have a team of druids.

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    I'm going to report that the shaman is doing 5k DPS more than everyone else at level 80 and that Blizzard said they are going to buff shaman until they're so good that everyone will roll one. Oh, sorry, I have no links. You'll just have to trust me.

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