Quote Originally Posted by 'Vyndree',index.php?page=Thread&postID=135790#post 135790
Lavishsoft was involved with the whole Glider vs Blizzard Entertainment legal thing that just recently was ruled in Blizzard's favor.
I would not feel comfortable trusting that a software company that was heavily involved in Glider (along with its own botting endeavours) with making a product thats use is inline with WoW ToU/Eula.
In the interest of full disclosure:

Neither of these are quite true. Firstly, I was never heavily involved in Glider. In 2006 I made a deal with MDY to provide him with protection from Warden. That is not Lavish Software, that is me individually, there is a difference and Lavish Software does not produce nor market Warden protection. Obviously, yes, there is a link between me and Lavish Software, so you can consider that the link, but the deal was not between Lavish and MDY. What MDY has received to date is information. I told them how to fix their problem at the time to stop their users from getting banned. The rest of the deal was to provide MDY with technology to protect their users on a continual basis, however the technology was not yet provided due to escalations of the court case, and Glider has never used any of my code. That is the extent of my involvement with Glider.

Secondly, the court case is not over. It goes to trial in January. There has been a lot of talk about the $6,000,000, but it is stipulated damages. Basically that means that if damages are awarded at trial, that is the number both sides agreed upon. There is no guarantee that damages will be awarded, and MDY will of course try to appeal in a higher court that does have the authority to overturn the precedent case or cases in the 9th circuit that the judge noted he had to follow.

I was deposed in November 2007 with regards to the extent of my involvement with MDY. Excerpts of my deposition have been used by Blizzard as exhibits in their case. I sat and spoke with Shane McGee, Blizzard's legal counsel (forgive me if this is the wrong term for Mr. McGee, as Blizzard also has an internal legal team afaik), as well as Lance Venable, MDY's legal counsel, at that deposition for a few hours. The deposition was cut short, because Shane McGee had assumed that I must have used Glider at some point, and that I could answer questions about its function or purpose. I have never used Glider, and went on record with that under oath, and I couldn't answer the most basic questions about it other than "it's a bot". But, we did chat for some time in my deposition about Inner Space, ISXWarden, ISXWoW, and bots. Suffice it to say that he knows more about it now than most of the people on these forums, and that as Blizzard's legal counsel, he probably spoke with them about it and/or showed them the entire transcript of my deposition.

And after all of this, they're not banning for Inner Space vanilla, if that is any consolation.

I have produced and distributed multi-boxing software for much longer than these forums have existed. I would love to hear anyone claim that I put features in WinEQ 2 to get them banned. As I explained on the other thread, it would be a very bad business decision for me to implement features in any of my software that I am promoting as "at least as safe to use as KeyClone and Octopus" that would get anyone banned. As I have been in business for 4 and a half years now, I don't see that happening any time soon, as I've been running a legitimate business the entire time.