Sam DeathWalker going to 36 Box WoW (from current 26), and 24 Box EQ!

[Youngceo]

The fact you talk about yourself in 3rd person and think your famous enough that everyone cares what you play or how many accounts you got just screams tool to me. sorry

[Sam DeathWalker]

My thoughts on SSD drives and system ram and super computers from another thread that is not being read much, I'm putting it here so we have more viewers of what seems a topic of concern to all multiboxers.

Lax and Not5150 suggest putting the windows page file on an SSD.

Not5150 and Lax showed links to drives that are 150MB/s read and 100MB/s write.

Aboron showed this link:

http://www.acard.com/english/fb01-pr...&type1_idno=13

My reply was:


Those are some really amazing SSD drives. My wow folder is 11G so I would guess 16G is the minimum you can get away with.

2G ram is like $25 so umm 16G is umm $200 plus you can get their $250 dive so you can saturate a SaTa2 buss for $450.

But for $450 shouldn’t you just go to 64 bit operating system and a motherboard that has 16G ram?

Well this can take 32G using the 2G $25 rams (16 of them or $400)

Dam this is $414 wholesale.

Tyan Thunder h2000M (S3992G3NR-E) Dual Opteron 2000/ DDR2/ RAID/ V&3L/ E-ATX Server Motherboard
Specification
Mfr Part Number: S3992G3NR-E
CPU: Dual uPGA 1207-pin ZIF Sockets Support AMD Opteron (Rev. F) 2000 Series Santa Rosa Dual-Core/ Barcelona Quad-Core Processors
Chipset: Broadcom BCM5780 (HT2000) & BCM5785 (HT1000)
Memory: 16x 240pin DDR2-667 DIMMs, Dual Channel, ECC/REG
Slots: 2x PCI-Express x16 Slots (Run on x8); 2x 133/100MHz PCI-X Slots; 1x 100MHz PCI-X Slot; 1x 32-bit/33MHz PCI Slot; 1x Tyan "TARO" SO-DIMM Socket
IDE/SATA: 1x ATA-133 Channel; 4x SATA Ports, Support RAID 0, 1, 5, and 10
Video: ATI ES1000 Graphics Controller w/ 32MB Video Memory
LAN: 2x 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Controllers (From BCM5780); 1x Intel i82551QM Fast Ethernet Controller
Ports: 4x USB 2.0 Ports (2 rear, 2 by header); 2x PS/2 Ports; 2x Serial Ports (1 rear, 1 by header); 1x VGA Port; 3x RJ45 LAN Ports
Power Connector: 1x 24pin main power, 1x 8pin CPU power
Form Factor: Extended ATX, 13 x 12 nich
Package: Retail
RoHS Compliant

Ok so for $800 you can get 32G ram motherboard and ram and dont need any SSD. Dam I wish I never read this lol ... $800 X 6 is umm ouch.

The cheapest optrons are: $144 each wholesale, doubt you need two but if you run tons of wows then ya.

AMD Opteron Dual-Core Processor Model 2212 1207pins, Retail w/o Heat sink Fan


So you can load your whole wow folder into the system ram and have 20G left over ....

And with 32G you dont need a page file ...

Ill bet you can get 30 wows on that kind of machine np, I think.

Well hummm ... ummm ok my brain is going to blow up heh ...


Ok the optron does not seem faster then a 6000 duel core I dont htink based on its price. So for about $1200 you get more ram then my 6 machines (32G to 24G) but about 1/2 the processor power. But you only need ONE video card ... but you only have ONE monitor ... but you only need ONE keyboard and mouse.

Ummm ...

If everything is in system ram how much processor power do you need for say 30 wows? And can you play 30 wows with only one screen, well you cant ... well if you are full screen in all and dont mind flipping though 30 times to get to a particular character. ummm ... well. Wonder how fast pip works if everything is in system ram ...

I want to stress that with this set up you can load your WHOLE WOW FOLDER into system ram and STILL have 20G of system ram left over ..... . I don't know if wow would do that or whatever but Im just saying that just think about that.


How would YOU run 30 wow's on a single computer, IF your computer could handle it?

[shaeman]

[EDIT: Removed post as it added nothing to the conversation]

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well computers are basically done. Only have 3 copies of XP so gonna have to get some more asap. But all six is up and running.

[Zub]

Well computers are basically done. Only have 3 copies of XP so gonna have to get some more asap. But all six is up and running.

Awesome. definitely something to celebrate

[Haruko]

Well computers are basically done. Only have 3 copies of XP so gonna have to get some more asap. But all six is up and running.

You run XP 8| Why not Vista x 64 ?

Just curious because with that many accounts It would be nice running 4GB of RAM & having Vista use it nicely.

[Sam DeathWalker]

Because programs are about 20 percent larger with 64 bit systems you don't gain anything if you only have 4G in your machine. If you had 8G ya vista X64 would be the way to go.

I don't think I need more ram for just 5 instances per computer but Ill find out.

I had many problems installing Vista from a win2k upgrade, maybe if I was installing clean it might be different. There is just no compelling reason to move to 64 bit, espically with the advent of SSD. If I move to the server mother boards then ya Ill have to use vista (or server software but vista would be better for home use). But thats in the far future.

[oxxo]

Because programs are about 20 percent larger with 64 bit systems you don't gain anything if you only have 4G in your machine. If you had 8G ya vista X64 would be the way to go.

I don't think I need more ram for just 5 instances per computer but Ill find out.

I had many problems installing Vista from a win2k upgrade, maybe if I was installing clean it might be different. There is just no compelling reason to move to 64 bit, espically with the advent of SSD. If I move to the server mother boards then ya Ill have to use vista (or server software but vista would be better for home use). But thats in the far future.

SSD and 64 bit have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

[Sam DeathWalker]

The reason to move to 64 bit is so that you have more system ram to reduce the amount of time it takes to move data to the system ram when zoneing or when in "Sath". With more system ram you reduce the number of times you go to the hard disk for data and thus improve zoning (loading) times.

SSD is just a faster drive so that when you go to it for data you get that data faster, thus improving zoning (loading) times.

You use either one to have "less lag".

[Haruko]

Because programs are about 20 percent larger with 64 bit systems you don't gain anything if you only have 4G in your machine. If you had 8G ya vista X64 would be the way to go.

I don't think I need more ram for just 5 instances per computer but Ill find out.

I had many problems installing Vista from a win2k upgrade, maybe if I was installing clean it might be different. There is just no compelling reason to move to 64 bit, espically with the advent of SSD. If I move to the server mother boards then ya Ill have to use vista (or server software but vista would be better for home use). But thats in the far future.

Are you really sure about 4GB machines not gaining anything? Might be more suited on machines with 2GB as Vista is a slug, but when I went to Vista with 4GB vs XP with 3.25GB Vista showed better use of the RAM overall. I guess when it comes to WoW yeah it wouldn't matter until you hit those big towns. 4GB is Vista's sweet spot 8GB is heaven once you configure right. Don't get me wrong, you can do whatever you like, I was just curious with the choice of RAM & CPU / OS mainly.

So 60 anytime soon

edit: post below

BTW, I was gonna say 64-bit & SSD are like different things btw as once poster stated. Not sure why you took the more expensive route with getting better load times & overall performance. ah well.