yeah im burning the memtest as we speak, i wasnt not going to try it, i just figured that wasnt the problem. it very well could be though.

Another thought:
Im running dual channel ram, and im not sure if its the exact same (i matched latency/manufacturer/frequency) but i do know they were manufactured at different times and COULD be differnet. if my first set of ram "a" were mixed up with the second set "b" coudl that pose a problem?
where typicaly ch1(a-b) ch2(a-b). if i were to have installed ch1(a-a) ch2(b-b) and they were in someway different could that cause this problem? i would normaly try this myself but my heatsink is covering my DIMM sockets.

ive never had a system like this so im running in the dark inch:

thanks