Any issues with 5 Shammies after patch/expansion?

[Aethon]

No issues, everything working as intended.

We even get a few nice buffs/ablilty to take advantage of other buffs now.

[puppychow]

I thought PVE mobs ignore resilience now? A big reason people fly through heroics is that they can get welfare gear (s1/s2), get some pretty decent spell damage and HP/armor, and 4 or 5 shaman the heroics. How many people have fun in heroics if they are in quest-only gear?

I think as a general rule multiboxing will be fine, especially since they have tuned down heroics a little (although I am sure there is going to be a few heroics which are very hard), but I do get the feeling you will have a much harder time running them without a dedicated tank, at least the 2 instances I've run on the premade 80 server in beta. Stuff just hits very hard.

[Xyl41]

The mobs do hit rather hard it seems. Multi-boxing will be at a bit of a disadvantage until the first epic set goes to no rating requirement (or those that get it early on). This is because of the amount of stamina difference between a premade paladin (22k hp) vs a premade shaman (16k hp). The mobs in heroic Halls of Lightning were hitting me for ~3k a hit, but they are only groups of 4-5 mobs. This will easily be dealt with using Hex properly.

[thinus]

1. Another heroism can not overwrite a currently active heroism buff.
2. Only when heroism effect expires after its full duration do you gain the debuff that prevents the effect to be repeated.

I am pretty sure all debuffs trigger as soon as you cast the spell, PW: S, etc. I don't think they will be changing the mechanic. If your Bloodlust is dispelled tough titties.

[valkry]

Bit pointless having a 10 min cd spell if it just gets dispelled every single time you cast it giving you no advanatage from it. So with the new limitations on it, blizzard should give it some protection, like not having it classed as a magic buff, but more like an enrage or something like Beastial Wrath.

[Schwarz]

[quote='puppychow',index.php?page=Thread&postID=130 962#post130962] How many people have fun in heroics if they are in quest-only gear?
[/quote]When I first dinged 70 I was doing heroics in quest only gear. I didn't even think about picking up the "seer's" set b/c it didn't have as much spell damage as my quest gear.

I go back to my orginal thought you can always kite them. Watch some of these videos
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http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=91AT88ql8j4

[valkry]

Hmm, the new ToW, can be good, can be bad. Good for raids because the whole rid can benefit from the crit buff if it is in range of the boss, but if it isn't no one will benefit.