Well today is the day.. I start getting limited!

[Blackguarde]

People complaining about 250gb a month are clueless, just to be blunt.

You are complaining about something that will not effect anyone other than abusers.

[mmcookies]

People complaining about 250gb a month are clueless, just to be blunt.

You are complaining about something that will not effect anyone other than abusers.

sigh...

[zanthor]

16Mbit/s is 2MB/second...

250GB/Month is 8.3GB/Day

You could possibly download 86GB a day if you totally saturated your 16Mbit cable... which is 10 two hour DVD's a day... uncompressed. Or 20 hours of DVD quality video per day...

If you can totally saturate a 16Mbit shared connection yourself... Lets say you dont have to have a job but do need 6 hours sleep a night, that means that in a month, you'll have 60 additional hours of video to watch before you have watched all of last months downloads...

None of this is porn, so you won't have to do laundry as often as if it was...

Just seems to me that your complaints are hollow and that you can't actually use the bandwidth you claim... Or you are downloading shit just to have it... which is what I used to do when I was in the warez biz... back in the early 90's when telnet was the internet... and people knew how to use pine to get their e-mail.

[Marious]

Wow thats a whole lot of Gigs of data. Cant say I download even half of that in a month.

Sorry man but I can't feel your pain, 250G is a whole lot I dont think I even download this in 2-4 months sometimes I don't download anything for like weeks at a time and at the end of the month is less than 4G of data, MP3's I download rarely now I just listen to Pandora Radio at work and at home great service imho, sure they play some of the songs over and over but what can I say I like the ones they replay most times and then you can say I dont like that song and bam they dont play it again.

I actually use to be like you many years ago, have had cable internet for shoot maybe 10 years now, first couple of years I use to download a lot of crap most of it is gone I been through a whole lot of hard drives, the usual crap wipe from windows, I killed the PC in one way and screwed up my hard drive.

Shoot with one being able to watch half the crap you use to have to download or record to your DVR online there really is not a whole lot of reason to download a lot of the stuff, you can now go to most big TV station website and watch the show you missed in the last 2 weeks or go to one of the thrillion different internet radio stations and listen to what ever you want.

[Bradster]

[quote='Blackguarde',index.php?page=Thread&postID=1 29326#post129326]People complaining about 250gb a month are clueless, just to be blunt.
[/quote]Please do elaborate, this should be good.

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[Ughmahedhurtz]

People complaining about 250gb a month are clueless, just to be blunt.

Please do elaborate, this should be good.

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On my Verizon FiOS, I can almost cap my 15mbit plan at about 13.8mbits/s using a good mirror from FileFront.com. Let's do a little math here to get a feel for the amount involved.

13.8 mbits/sec ~= 1.87mBytes/sec
Which is about 103.5mBytes/minute.
Which is about 6.2gigaBytes/hour.
Which is about 149gigaBytes/day.
Which is about 4.5teraBytes/month.

The average cable modem subscriber can pull a reasonable 5mbits/sec from decent sites, maybe not during prime time but most of the time. We'll just fudge and say 5mbits/sec 24/7 for math purposes.
That's 37megaBytes/minute.
Or 2.2gigaBytes/hour.
Or 54gigaBytes/day.
Or 1.62teraBytes/month.

For DSL guys on the typical 1.5mbit plans, they'll get about 1.3mbits/sec under ideal conditions assuming their local lines aren't complete crap.
Which is about 187k/sec.
Or 11.25mBytes/minute.
Or 675mBytes/hour.
Or 16.2gigaBytes/day.
Or 486gigaBytes/month.

Now that's all assuming you're sitting at your download cap 24/7, which is obviously impractical unless you're backing up entire newsgroup servers once per week. So, with that in mind, let's take a more reasonable case. Let's say your computer spends about 8 hours per day downloading stuff while you're actually home and online. We'll assume for this example that you're downloading what you can queue up in whatever downloader you use and it will cap your bandwidth for about 8 hours. I know it's not very realistic, but bear with me.

For 15mb fiber, that'd be about 1.48teraBytes/month.
For cable, that'd be about 528gigaBytes/month.
For 1.5mb DSL, that'd be about 162gigaBytes/month.

Now, for another example, let's say you actually use your computer about 12 hours per day every day doing interwebz-intensive tasks (nerd). While using that, you actually manage to cap your bandwidth for about 2 hours of that. The rest is spent just doing normal email, websurfing and some gaming and web radio. That would effectively give you something like about 4 hours of bandwidth cap per day of real data transfer.

For fiber, that'd be about 744GB/month.
For cable, that'd be about 264GB/month.
For DSL, that'd be about 81GB/month.

Now, the range we can observe from relatively high-end casual use to max bandwidth/month is 81GB-4500GB/month. Where in that range do YOU fall? I'd be willing to bet that most everyone here could not provide a real answer to how much bandwidth you use per month.

[Blackguarde]

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Just to put things into perspetive, this is what 250GBs is:

• Send 50 million emails (at 0.05 KB/email)
• Download 62,500 4 MB songs (at 4 MB/song)
• Download 125 standard-definition movies (at 2 GB/movie)
• Upload 25,000 hi-resolution digital photos (at 10 MB/photo)

Online games transfer a few kb's at a time (Did a 4 hour session of WoW and it used like 4 mbs...)

Seriously, aside from a few rare cases of legitimate use, stop downloading pirated crap.

[Zite83]

I have been paying $44.95 a month for unlimited use for about 4 years now. Now if they are stating that I'm only allowed so much a month that I can download.. then my bill should be changed to something abit cheaper.. or.. Allow me unlimited and I pay more/same. For me.. I don't live alone.. I live with two other people in my house hold who's lives revolve around the Internet. Some peope just use the Internet to check their email and check up on the latest news.. My house hold uses it 24/7 I've gotten many phone calls/email notices for exsessive bandwidth use from Insight (now Comcast)


All and all here is why I am putting up such a fuss about it.. Comcast states that this limit will only effect %1 of its customers.. Why go to all this trouble for %1 of its customers? Those being and I quote "People who use home Internet service to run a business) I'm sorry.. but have you ever tried to host a website on a cable line..? Once you get more than 8 people on your server.. The line just boggs down.. I know I ran www.minnietheminx.net on my home server for about two years.. Once the guild got to big.. I transfered it to a pay service.. What comcast is trying to do is put a stop or damper File Sharing... They tried limiting torrent traffic and got sued for that.. So instead lets just put a cap on our service so those "1%" can only share 250GB a month...

By the way.. my mason jar is filled with a strong long island ice tea :thumbsup: not lake water :P

[Blackguarde]

I have been paying $44.95 a month for unlimited use for about 4 years now. Now if they are stating that I'm only allowed so much a month that I can download.. then my bill should be changed to something abit cheaper.. or.. Allow me unlimited and I pay more/same. For me.. I don't live alone.. I live with two other people in my house hold who's lives revolve around the Internet. Some peope just use the Internet to check their email and check up on the latest news.. My house hold uses it 24/7 I've gotten many phone calls/email notices for exsessive bandwidth use from Insight (now Comcast)

Well im an employee, so I cant argue the cost with you (free). What I can tell you is that you are more than welcome to go to another company for cheaper, at the expense of a slower connection of course.

All and all here is why I am putting up such a fuss about it.. Comcast states that this limit will only effect %1 of its customers.. Why go to all this trouble for %1 of its customers? Those being and I quote "People who use home Internet service to run a business) I'm sorry.. but have you ever tried to host a website on a cable line..? Once you get more than 8 people on your server.. The line just boggs down.. I know I ran www.minnietheminx.net on my home server for about two years.. Once the guild got to big.. I transfered it to a pay service.. What comcast is trying to do is put a stop or damper File Sharing... They tried limiting torrent traffic and got sued for that.. So instead lets just put a cap on our service so those "1%" can only share 250GB a month...

By the way.. my mason jar is filled with a strong long island ice tea :thumbsup: not lake water :P

You still come off as "the sky is falling!" attitude. Unless you are in that 1% then what do you care exactly? What exactly about this whole scenerio can you not get over?

1% of millions of customers is quite a bit if you want to get down to numbers. That ONE guy living on a street consuming 1000gb a month in warez and porn is screwing over everyone else on his cable card/node.

Tell you what. Come back when you've actually managed to break 250gb without downloading stuff you are not suppose to and then we can talk.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

You still come off as "the sky is falling!" attitude. Unless you are in that 1% then what do you care exactly? What exactly about this whole scenerio can you not get over?

1% of millions of customers is quite a bit if you want to get down to numbers. That ONE guy living on a street consuming 1000gb a month in warez and porn is screwing over everyone else on his cable card/node.

Tell you what. Come back when you've actually managed to break 250gb without downloading stuff you are not suppose to and then we can talk.

I think this is what pisses off most consumers with regards to the broadband companies. If you're so sure people are downloading pr0n and warez and shit, put your money where your mouth is: filter pr0n/warez/etc. traffic only and quit whining about the 1%. I mean, pr0n/warez traffic gone = problem 100% solved, AMIRITE? Now don't go saying you can't filter it because you can't tell which traffic is warez/pr0n and which is valid -- you just said you KNOW people are "downloading stuff you are not suppose to," so you can't have it both ways.

Of course, the way I see it, screw everybody. Let everyone make their choices and live with the consequences. As long as no monopoly abuses arise in certain markets, no harm no foul. True, unregulated/unstifled competition WILL fix any inequities.

Gawd, we could go on all week about why the broadband companies have made their own bed with the way they did the infrastructure upgrades as a capital venture, but most folks won't care about that. They'll just see themselves being punished for the wrongs of others.