No more gear from BGS :(

[Anjuna]

Wait what?

I was saying Anjuna's comments were uncalled for, not Fursphere. Fursphere didn't really make a direct personal attack, Anjuna called him an idiot and "based on his other ###### posts its obvious you're an idiot" etc, whereas actually Fursphere contributes a ton to this site, and I'm pretty sure hes a moderator as well.

Anyway...just wanted to make sure MY post didn't get misunderstood.

So, let me get this straight. What you're saying here is that my comments were uncalled for, yet Fursphere can call my play style lame and say that "I didn't work for my gear" because he contributes to this site and you are "pretty sure he is a moderator as well"?

I'm glad you don't make the laws...

[Hachoo]

Wait what?

I was saying Anjuna's comments were uncalled for, not Fursphere. Fursphere didn't really make a direct personal attack, Anjuna called him an idiot and "based on his other ###### posts its obvious you're an idiot" etc, whereas actually Fursphere contributes a ton to this site, and I'm pretty sure hes a moderator as well.

Anyway...just wanted to make sure MY post didn't get misunderstood.

So, let me get this straight. What you're saying here is that my comments were uncalled for, yet Fursphere can call my play style lame and say that "I didn't work for my gear" because he contributes to this site and you are "pretty sure he is a moderator as well"?

I'm glad you don't make the laws...

I'm doing to quote Fursphere's post right now so you can see how silly you're being:

I disagree with this post 100%.

My entire team is decked out in Heroic / Badge gear. I have never bought any PvP gear (got some points, never used them). And I hold my own when it counts. I leveled on a PvP server, and geared my team up. Welfare epics are exactly that - epics for people too damn lame to get gear on their own.

Yes, I'm much more PvE focused, but I can cruise into a BG and make a difference.

Ok, lets see, hes saying he got his own gear himself and he leveled on a pvp server and geared his guy up. Then he goes on to say welfare epics ARE welfare, and that they're for people too lame to get gear on their own.

Nowhere in there did he specifically call YOU lame, he simply stated that people whining about not being able to GET welfare epics anymore are people that are too lame to get gear on their own. This MAY be an indirect insult to you, but YOU directly insulted him by calling him an idiot and then spouting off a bunch of your own personal experiences like they were fact, which they aren't.

Sorry, but his post might have been missing a bit of couth, yours was just flag out derogatory. If you really had that big of a problem with what he said you could have said so in many ways that wouldn't make you look worse than him.

Not only that but my post was simply saying yours was uncalled for and you went on to insult me as well by "insinuating" I'm an idiot because of my post...yeah, way to make yourself look even more "right".

[Anjuna]

Wait what?

I was saying Anjuna's comments were uncalled for, not Fursphere. Fursphere didn't really make a direct personal attack, Anjuna called him an idiot and "based on his other ###### posts its obvious you're an idiot" etc, whereas actually Fursphere contributes a ton to this site, and I'm pretty sure hes a moderator as well.

Anyway...just wanted to make sure MY post didn't get misunderstood.

So, let me get this straight. What you're saying here is that my comments were uncalled for, yet Fursphere can call my play style lame and say that "I didn't work for my gear" because he contributes to this site and you are "pretty sure he is a moderator as well"?

I'm glad you don't make the laws...

I'm doing to quote Fursphere's post right now so you can see how silly you're being:

I disagree with this post 100%.

My entire team is decked out in Heroic / Badge gear. I have never bought any PvP gear (got some points, never used them). And I hold my own when it counts. I leveled on a PvP server, and geared my team up. Welfare epics are exactly that - epics for people too damn lame to get gear on their own.

Yes, I'm much more PvE focused, but I can cruise into a BG and make a difference.

Ok, lets see, hes saying he got his own gear himself and he leveled on a pvp server and geared his guy up. Then he goes on to say welfare epics ARE welfare, and that they're for people too lame to get gear on their own.

Nowhere in there did he specifically call YOU lame, he simply stated that people whining about not being able to GET welfare epics anymore are people that are too lame to get gear on their own. This MAY be an indirect insult to you, but YOU directly insulted him by calling him an idiot and then spouting off a bunch of your own personal experiences like they were fact, which they aren't.

Sorry, but his post might have been missing a bit of couth, yours was just flag out derogatory. If you really had that big of a problem with what he said you could have said so in many ways that wouldn't make you look worse than him.

Not only that but my post was simply saying yours was uncalled for and you went on to insult me as well by "insinuating" I'm an idiot because of my post...yeah, way to make yourself look even more "right".

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it, but the way I read it (and still read it) he was quoting my post and making a comment about my play style. I am not the only one who read it like that as this has been pointed out in the thread and by a friend who alerted me to his reply in the first place. So while you might see it a different way, my opinion is that he insulted me. That's my story and i'm sticking to it. If anything, he should learn to word his posts different as to not lead people to believe that he is making an inflammatory comment.

[Schwarz]

hasn't this argument happened already. Gear grind is a grind any way you go about it

a)pvp

b)heroics

c)crafted professions.

They all take time and are all have their advantages/disadvantages. I think the only reason "welfare epics" are you could get them from just afk farming bg's. Granted it sounds like you didn't do this. So I think you earned all your gear GOOD JOB!

[Ken]

3) PvE/Heroic/Raid gear. You pretty much have to earn this, especially as a multiboxing. There are no welfare runs there, especially when you first ding 70. Do or die. You don't get points for LOSING.

There are guilds that offer raid instance(Karahzan) boosts for money. (entry fee + fee per epic that is received) :P

[Ughmahedhurtz]

[edit] Nevermind. No point.

[Drizzit]

Nevermind. No point.

100% agree :P

PvE/Heroic/Raid
gear. You pretty much have to earn this, especially as a multiboxing.
There are no welfare runs there, especially when you first ding 70. Do
or die. You don't get points for LOSING.

There are guilds that offer raid instance(Karahzan) boosts for money. (entry fee + fee per epic that is received) :P

Very True. To be honest, I bought and ZA Armani War bear this way.

Oh no Fur you contradicted yourself :P

But you saved yourself

(but my post is mostly focusing on multiboxing teams)

It comes down to who you know and what you have. The guild that i am in have Kara on farm, i solo box kara twice with 2 different toons and now i can dual-box them there cause i am geared, but if i wasn't in a guild that had it on farm, i wouldn't even be able to go into kara... My sham where dps and a little below kara gear so that is why i was lucky in getting in, but my pally is so undergeared it isn't funny. But hopefully when the patch comes i can respec to healing and be able to get into 1 run that way (have like 450 spell damage, so patch will make healing and damage equal so i can easy switch over). If you have a ton of gold you can probably buy kara runs.

[Drizzit]

Off topic

Fur how did you "buy" the bear? Did you go on the wow forums and ask? Or did you ask in the trade channel. Just want to know cause i want to buy a kara run with my pally (thinking 1 run should get me enough gear that i can off tank with the guild next time. cause every time i run it with my sham i see plate drop all the time, but with my luck all dps mail will drop).

back on topic

[Physics101]

I'm fine with removing epics from normal bging, as long as they fix to prevent the people who deck out in the best gear getting bored and resetting their rating to stomp everyone else for giggles.

Fur we still need to slam our heads against za to see how far we can get!

[Rin]

Haha, if someone told me that I "bought" the bear, I'd tell them that they're damn right, and with 10 accounts I can make over 1000 gold per hour. GG.

I do want to try the ZA runs before they eliminate the bear altogether, but I doubt that all of my characters will be geared out in anything other than Dunegon/Slight-Heroics (since I'm not going to bother with the PVP push, as it wont matter in 2 months) before the expansion. We'll see....


Rin
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