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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Gares',index.php?page=Thread&postID=125274#post12 5274
    If I do run 4 accounts however sometimes they will all be good and sometimes one will not.

    I have run a tracert while I've had them open and sometimes but not all the time I have a high latency packet along the hop. Its always just one and if I do the tracert again its not there, and then if I retest again it sometimes pops up again. So I am really at a loss with this one.
    Do I understand correctly that we're talking about two separate problems here? The first one is the red-connection problem which is always apparent with five and sometimes apparent with four? And the main-FPS problem which (as Ugh said) is probably a foreground/background issue?

    If I've got that straight, then for diagnostic purposes, I would suggest figuring out what's distinctive about the one window that shows a red connection. Is it always the last one you loaded? Is it always the one assigned to a particular CPU? Etc. Also, can you do anything that changes which window is the red one? Once you know the cause you will probably also know the solution.

    Also, for diagnostic purposes, you could reassign affinities so all clients are enabled to run on all CPUs. This gives the operating system's thread scheduler maximum leeway to optimize. If the problem still occurs I would raise the thread priority to high for the red client and see if that helps -- if it does, you'll know it's a thread scheduling issue.
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    2 - TCPNoDelay
    This one is pretty simple

    Type "regedit" in windows "run.." dialog to bring up registry menu

    Then find:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Paramet ers

    Right-click in the right hand pane and add a new DWORD value, name it TCPNoDelay, then right click the entry and click Modify and assign a value of 1.

    Click Ok and close the registry editor, then reboot your PC.
    heres a link to that thread as it also has a hotfix for vista but i didnt need to use it. i followed those instructions and it worked so many wonders for my latency i couldnt believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie',index.php?page=Thread&postID=125380#post1 25380][quote='Gares',index.php?page=Thread&postID=125274# post125274]If I do run 4 accounts however sometimes they will all be good and sometimes one will not.

    I have run a tracert while I've had them open and sometimes but not all the time I have a high latency packet along the hop. Its always just one and if I do the tracert again its not there, and then if I retest again it sometimes pops up again. So I am really at a loss with this one.[/quote]
    Do I understand correctly that we're talking about two separate problems here? The first one is the red-connection problem which is always apparent with five and sometimes apparent with four? And the main-FPS problem which (as Ugh said) is probably a foreground/background issue?

    If I've got that straight, then for diagnostic purposes, I would suggest figuring out what's distinctive about the one window that shows a red connection. Is it always the last one you loaded? Is it always the one assigned to a particular CPU? Etc. Also, can you do anything that changes which window is the red one? Once you know the cause you will probably also know the solution.

    Also, for diagnostic purposes, you could reassign affinities so all clients are enabled to run on all CPUs. This gives the operating system's thread scheduler maximum leeway to optimize. If the problem still occurs I would raise the thread priority to high for the red client and see if that helps -- if it does, you'll know it's a thread scheduling issue.[/quote]

    Yeah I have to do more testing as for why only one of my screens shows the red. It definately isn't always the last one though I know that. My thread priorty is set to low as Ugh suggested but it was at normal before.

    The FPS issue I have is very strange and I've tried to get it between the foreground/background issue but it doesn't seem to work. The only way I have figured out how to fix it is to keep PIP swapping between all my other screens and then back to my main until it fixes.

    In keyclone I have my main account on CPU 1, and then my second and third account on CPU 2, and then my third and fourth account on CPU 3. From what I remember reading someone said that CPU 0 is the same as CPU 1 so its basically useless to use it. I'm guessing the only other thing I can do set them in my Task Manager after load but isn't that what keyclone is doing anyways??

    [quote='Bot',index.php?page=Thread&postID=125455#po st125455][quote]2 - TCPNoDelay
    This one is pretty simple

    Type "regedit" in windows "run.." dialog to bring up registry menu

    Then find:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Paramet ers

    Right-click in the right hand pane and add a new DWORD value, name it TCPNoDelay, then right click the entry and click Modify and assign a value of 1.

    Click Ok and close the registry editor, then reboot your PC. [/quote]heres a link to that [url='http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=3973
    thread[/url] as it also has a hotfix for vista but i didnt need to use it. i followed those instructions and it worked so many wonders for my latency i couldnt believe it.
    I took a look at that post but my question is can I do this on a Vista 64 system and the hotfix is it needed before or after you do the edit?

    I have no problem doing the edit I just don't want to screw it up cause no one really points out how to do it properly for a Vista system, as all the examples seem to be for XP users.
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    i didnt even need the hotfix. i did it in vista 64 exactly like it says and it worked perfectly. the hotfix is for after you do it if it didnt work for some reason i think.

    The behavior of TCP acknowledgments (ACKs) does not change after you modify the TcpAckFrequency registry entry in Windows Vista
    that from the hotfix's website so it seems as though its a back up in case the registry edit didnt have any effect. but like i said i didnt even need it. i dont even think i had to reboot i saw results immediatly. im not big on registry edits it scares me everytime i open that thing but this one seems to be a pretty minor one. ultimatley its your call im just saying it does have an effect. im running all 5 clients at 45ms pretty much constantly now. back when i only played one character in never saw latency below 100ms so it did do something.

    p.s. always backup the registry. i know its a no-brainer but thought id throw a reminder out there.
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    Well considering most of my clients run are running around 150-200ms most of the time I guess I should do it. I know thats not really that bad but the decrease seems to be huge as everyone says its a great performance increase. My only question is I guess I need to set a static IP for it to work properly.
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    2 - TCPNoDelay
    This one is pretty simple

    Type "regedit" in windows "run.." dialog to bring up registry menu

    Then find:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Paramet ers

    Right-click in the right hand pane and add a new DWORD value, name it TCPNoDelay, then right click the entry and click Modify and assign a value of 1.

    Click Ok and close the registry editor, then reboot your PC.

    I don't have HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ so I can't do this one......
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    found this on another forum. not sure if you really wanna delve into all of that though. i dont know what to say though because im running vista and it was in there for me... again i wont recommend this because i havent done it myself but i thought you might wanna try and learn more about it and maybe give it a shot its up to you. hope you figure something out
    [align=left]Hello,[/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left]You indicated that you are unable to find the MSMQ subkey under the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft node. Actually, by default, MSMQ subkey does not exist in Windows Vista OS. However, if you want to change it to improve ICMP (Ping) behavior, you can add it manually.[/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left]For your convenience, I provide a method here:[/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left]1. Create a new Text Document (*.txt).[/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left]2. Copy and paste the following contents (without the equal mark "===") into the Text Document.[/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left]================================================== =================[/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left]Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00[/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left][HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ][/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left][HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Paramet ers][/align] [align=left]"TCPNoDelay"=dword:00000001[/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left][HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Paramet ers\OCMsetup][/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left][HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Paramet ers\Security][/align] [align=left]"SecureDSCommunication"=dword:00000000[/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left][HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Paramet ers\setup][/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left][HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSMQ\Setup][/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left]================================================== =================[/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left]3. Save and close the Document.[/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left]4. Change the file extension *.txt to *.reg. (Note: if you are unable to view the file extension, please double-click Computer, click Tools menu > Folder Options > on the View tab, clear the checkbox before "Hide extensions for known file type" > click OK.)[/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left]5. Double-click the *.reg file (Note: If prompted, please click Continue on the User Account Control (UAC) window.) You'll get a registry editor warning stating "Are you sure you want to continue", please click Yes.[/align] [align=left] [/align] [align=left]Hope it works[/align]
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    Well I ended up doing the tcpackfrequency reg edit and it made a huge difference for me.

    My ms on all 5 chars now is like 40ms, my characters have not lost auto follow ever anymore, and the soft lag problem is rare but still there and seems to happen more often then not when I control my main char but not when I control one of the slaves.

    I think I am in heaven pretty much now except for the occasional graphic card crash that I still haven't figured out. It however has gotten alot better since I put in the Catalyst 8.9 drivers.
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    nice glad to here one of those worked for you. sucks about the vid card troubles though...
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    Yeah I thought about maybe underclocking my card because I am able to do it, but I'm not sure where to set it out. Have to do some extra research I guess
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