Elemental Oath and Moonkin Aura Don't Stack?

[Aradar]

Your druid/shammy example makes sense in that the druid would build threat quicker; however, I'd stray away from using the words damage and threat interchangeably due to threat modifiers. As I'm sure you've seen, dps gernally out damages tanks by a large margin yet fall behind in threat production. The point I think Fursphere is trying to make is that with straight out spam by a boomkin, their threat modifiers aren't sufficient enough whereas a shamans generally are.

As for the castsequence blanks, I know, I was just kidding.

Edit: got interrupted while typing this and Fursphere beat me to the reply.

[TheBigBB]

I talked to our T6 raiding Moonkin today about this. He has no idea what you're talking about with pulling aggro more. I haven't seen this happen on my team or in my raids. I don't know what to say about that comment.

Well.. you're T6 Boomkin undoubtly uses Omen (or something) and watches this threat carefully. I'm talking about all out Wrath spam. And this is just what I've experienced. YMMV

You said that a moonkin doing way less DPS than the rest of the team was pulling aggro. Your experience on this point can't differ from others because threat works based on a formula, not random luck. If you are having unexplainable aggro issues then I want to figure what is causing them, because I do run a druid and I don't want to have this cause a wipe. Maybe you were just estimating or exaggerating, and that's fine.

Ya... you're missing what I'm saying here.

Solo player = manages player and threat (with omen) to the full extent. Stops DPS when needed, adjusts, etc.

Multiboxing Shaman = Spam. I just spam the hell out of my DPS macro, with no concern to watching threat.

Wrath, in case you don't know, gets a casting time modifier on crit. The more you crit, the faster you cast.... it gets pretty silly. This is when they "appear" to pull aggro... if you macro'd one in with Shaman, you'd have to STOP ALL DPS to back off. Or have two buttons, one for Shaman DPS, one for Boomkin DPS and manage accordingly. (no thanks!)

Actually, what you just said is what I was trying to say. The druid pulls aggro because he's doing better damage.

[Aradar]

I talked to our T6 raiding Moonkin today about this. He has no idea what you're talking about with pulling aggro more. I haven't seen this happen on my team or in my raids. I don't know what to say about that comment.

Well.. you're T6 Boomkin undoubtly uses Omen (or something) and watches this threat carefully. I'm talking about all out Wrath spam. And this is just what I've experienced. YMMV

You said that a moonkin doing way less DPS than the rest of the team was pulling aggro. Your experience on this point can't differ from others because threat works based on a formula, not random luck. If you are having unexplainable aggro issues then I want to figure what is causing them, because I do run a druid and I don't want to have this cause a wipe. Maybe you were just estimating or exaggerating, and that's fine.

Ya... you're missing what I'm saying here.

Solo player = manages player and threat (with omen) to the full extent. Stops DPS when needed, adjusts, etc.

Multiboxing Shaman = Spam. I just spam the hell out of my DPS macro, with no concern to watching threat.

Wrath, in case you don't know, gets a casting time modifier on crit. The more you crit, the faster you cast.... it gets pretty silly. This is when they "appear" to pull aggro... if you macro'd one in with Shaman, you'd have to STOP ALL DPS to back off. Or have two buttons, one for Shaman DPS, one for Boomkin DPS and manage accordingly. (no thanks!)

Actually, what you just said is what I was trying to say. The druid pulls aggro because he's doing better damage.

Actually, that's not what he said at all. Threat and damage do not have a direct correlation when you factor in threat modifiers.