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  1. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Stabface',index.php?page=Thread&postID=121235#pos t121235
    Because +15% Strength for yourself is way better than +10% to all stats for everyone else, right?
    Ret Paladins will have both. Leaving out the PvP talents in the Ret tree leaves 10 points, and none of them are going into Holy.

    Prot Paladins will still, most likely, have it. Guardians Favor, Stoicism and Imp HoJ are the only (less Pve) alternatives.

    A Holy PvE Spec is going to be 52/7/12 or 54/17/0, both of which take Kings over Strength. Maybe even 51/20/0 but same deal.

    And assuming 800 Str, 15% is going to mean 120 more Str, which is more threat, around 40-50 more Block Value, which in turn is around 110-120 more damage from ShotR, which is even more threat and a little bit of mitigation. I think that 15% strength for a tank is going to be worth more than the 10% Str/Agi for a melee and 10% Int/Spi for a caster (who would be receiving Might/Wisdom respectively in 1 paladin situation anyways.)

    People are still going to spec Kings, regardless of their spec (in PvE).
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  2. #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'voodoogriff',index.php?page=Thread&postID=121264# post121264
    A Holy PvE Spec is going to be 52/7/12 or 54/17/0, both of which take Kings over Strength. Maybe even 51/20/0 but same deal.
    Um, no. lol

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  3. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Naysayer',index.php?page=Thread&postID=121287#pos t121287
    Bacon of Light
    Mmm Bacon.

  4. #14

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    Im with Furs here I have a pally/shaman set up. Blessing of Sanct is what I use. BoK dont even use it unless to buff some passing Horde.

  5. #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Naysayer',index.php?page=Thread&postID=121287#pos t121287
    Sheath of Light > Bacon of Light
    http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=s look where sheath of light is now .... you need 43 points in ret to get it fully
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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Stabface',index.php?page=Thread&postID=121235#pos t121235
    Because +15% Strength for yourself is way better than +10% to all stats for everyone else, right?
    So it's better for your tank to suffer mitigation/threat to be a buff bot?
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  7. #17

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Piros',index.php?page=Thread&postID=121404#post12 1404
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Naysayer',index.php?page=Thread&postID=121287#pos t121287
    Sheath of Light > Bacon of Light
    http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=s look where sheath of light is now .... you need 43 points in ret to get it fully
    hahahah

    owned

    Good thing they nerfed it. Pumping out guaranteed Holy Shock crits and instant 12k Holy Light heals with an 8k HoT on the end of it 4tw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Coltimar',index.php?page=Thread&postID=121419#pos t121419
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Stabface',index.php?page=Thread&postID=121235#pos t121235
    Because +15% Strength for yourself is way better than +10% to all stats for everyone else, right?
    So it's better for your tank to suffer mitigation/threat to be a buff bot?
    STR isn't for mitigation, it's for threat.
    Unless they changed the formula in WotLK the amount of block value from STR is laughable - 1 BV per 20 STR. So if you think +15% STR going to help your mitigation or block-value-generated threat then you're pretty much /fail at math.
    If you have 800 base strength as a tank (probable, looking at the Naxx 10/25 man gear) then +15% is going to give you : 800 x .15 / 20 = 6 extra block value. LOL...
    Of course, the extra 120 STR is going to help you generate threat through straight physical damage, not a huge amount but some yes. From what I've seen it's totally unneeded in 5 mans though, might be useful in 25's but at that point you should have another Paladin who can cast Kings so yeah you can take those points in +STR instead.

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    1BV for every 2 STR now its been made 10x better :thumbsup:

  10. #20

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    Indeed, looks like they changed it. Well, 60 BV instead of 6, but it's still not a great mitigation stat.

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