[WoW] PVE-->PVP xfers now allowed!

[Naysayer]

But perhaps there will be an upside to it. Last week I was
in Iron Forge for an hour and a half and only 4 people came to fight me in that
time. I got so bored fighting npc guards that spawned I logged. World PVP is really dead. Might do something for
it.

Probably just your server. You can't do that shit on my server.

[Marious]

Darn too bad they did not have this 6 weeks ago, I could of leveled on my old PVE server than transferred to my current PVP server. I did spend quite some time running to my body when I was leveling from 1-60 not that I don't spend quite some time doing the same on the way to 70 but its to be expected.

I do hope some folks come over from the PVE servers could also use them for PVE raiding on the PVP server.

[asonimie]

Are there any servers out there with a decent group of alliance boxers around? Similar to <the zerg> on mag? I am going to be transferring to my new RAF accounts soon... so this is a perfect chance to hook up with some other boxers on another server somewhere.

Btw I run 5xShams, and am going to be leveling 2 new groups of 5 with my RAF bonus before Wrath.

Let me know thanks!

[Saevio]

FYI PVE players you generally have to fight for the summoning stone in front of kara. I always wondered do the PVE servers get little zone buffs like we do? Ie spirit towers in terrokar or the helfire buff.

Yup, but in order to capture towers, you have to be PVP enabled.

[Rowdysattva]

yes on pve servers we get the buff in outland zones.

edit: but even if you are not enabled and your faction controls the towers you get the buff


And i haven't seen many people even try for towers. Usually if you want them you just enable your status and go stand there while you cap... no one usually shows on my server. In HFP it is mostly horde who control the towers and in Zang it is mostly ally who have the beacons.

[Saevio]

Totally different on a PVP server, I can dominate the towers in HFP if I want to, managed to get my 15 Honor Hold Marks in about 30 minutes.

After a while though, some 70s start to show up, and the ones with PVP gear are hard to kill :[

[Vyndree]

FYI PVE players you generally have to fight for the summoning stone in front of kara. I always wondered do the PVE servers get little zone buffs like we do? Ie spirit towers in terrokar or the helfire buff.

IMO, it's not the leveling part that "gets me" about PvE->PvP transfers. It's things like meeting stone "raids", fighting for elemental plateau or good rep grinding areas, and things like getting ganked at the graveyard when you released from TK instances/raid. Those are all prohibitors to PvE progression -- if you had free range to raid whenever you like, without interruption; farm whenever you like (your only interruption being respawns and tapping the mob first); without fearing for your life when someone farms the same mobs as you for rep items (aldor/scryer, etc)...

Essentially, raid gear is "easier" to get on a PvE server because you don't have the constant fear of interruption thanks to PvP. Even progressing up to the point that you can ENTER raiding -- like blue starter gear... There are always massive meeting stone battles at hellfire, auchindoun, coilfang, TK.... PvP gear wasn't always available, you know. It's like PvE servers get a free "jump start".

The leveling, I really care less. Ganking is not PvP, and if they want to avoid it I don't blame them. But the lvl 70 vs lvl 70 fights you come up against normally -- even if it's just "we own sunwell isle -- you shall NOT do your dailies! No gold for joo!!" by a massive PvP guild... that's world PvP. And it doesn't just screw with leveling -- it screws with your time when you might NOT want to PvP (i.e. raiding, farming, gearing).

If I see people in full sunwell gear sauntering around bragging about how they raided on a PvE server and never had to deal with any PvP all the way to sunwell... I am going to get my horde friends to camp them for all eternity.

I remember, back when Kara was progression..."f*ck, horde raid at the kara stone... Everyone start porting to stormwind and fly over..." You'd try to run through the raid to get inside, but the gate would be closed and you'd watch as they fear/sheep/MC'ed you far enough away that you couldn't even corpserez inside the gate and had to try again. PvP servers don't just affect levelers. And for some god awful reason, we always had raid times at the same time as horde.

[Velassra]

And the forums are down lolz and the posts looks capped lol.

More I think about it, kinda getting irritated. I made it to 41 today w/o RAF. Too far along to start over, but low enough I'm going to catch alot of shit from 70's transferiing in running in to gank.

I don't feel like paying Blizzard and xtra 250 to transfer off till 70 then transfer back in for the fucking they just handed me.

[roddo]

This is kinda bullshit if you ask me. The getting ganked while leveling is annoying, but its not that bad, until you hit outlands. I just hit 50 on my 3 box crew, and I've been ganked 4 times, killed by someone my level once. All but about 4 levels were done outside instances. I leveled a solo lock to 70 on a pvp server, and it wasn't bad there either, just stay out of stv, southshore or arathi during peak hours and your fine. The world pvp when your 70 and are the under represented faction on your server is when life starts to suck, especially when they didn't have the welfare pvp blues and you had like 50 res if you were lucky. You'll see people level up, get geared up entirely on pve servers, then xfer over and screw with people. Doing any outlands instance will suck worse, especially pre 70 when you can't just fly in and get to your instance.

I'm not a huge fan of pvp servers despite leveling on them a few times, but theres a certain pride in surviving the trials and tribulations inherent to a pvp server. Thats all gone now, as your no different if you've been pvp for 4 years and have 100k hks, as the newb who leveled to 70 a week ago on a carebear with no lifetime hk's. To me this waters down a certain aspect of pvp servers, the we're tougher because we survived, and your weak because your to scared to play here. This is a line even EQ refused to cross last I checked, and its a bad move in my opinion.

[moji]

To me this waters down a certain aspect of pvp servers, the we're tougher because we survived, and your weak because your to scared to play here.

Bigheaded much? I left because I got tired of fighting over just trying to get a raid started in front of kara, farming primals and dying to the 5 nelf huntards in the area who kill me when I'm already low from fighting mobs. Scared, no. I just don't have the time for the frustration, which was all I really experienced. Leveled and played a Prot warrior on Shattered Halls for the early days of BC, raided kara for less than a month, rerolled and never looked back. Leveling wasn't hard, but endgame sucked.

My time is more valuable than epeen.

At least we'll be able to get rid of the morons on pve servers who flag up and stand on questgivers to try to get us to flag.