Who's the 26 BoXoR RoXoR?

[zanthor]

You can level 5 shamans to 60 easily in 36 hours played without any outside help using RAF...

Say 5 hours per sitting, thats a set of 60's in a weeks time...
Five weeks to get all to 60... assuming you don't use any gifted levels.

Of course this way you lose the learning curve of 25 boxing at once...

I'm curious, Prepared rocked his way to 60... did he level 1 group at a time?

[Bigdady92]

Raiding 25 multibox is going to be rough. Take the first boss in SSC: Hydross

This boss right here alone will stop this group cold. I don't care how much dps you put out you need to lock down the mobs somehow and be able to kite him back and forth. You'll need 2 tanks 1 frost 1 nature and the sheer amount of coordination would be intense. If you can do it, you should fly jet planes for the Air Force. You must heal, kite 4 mobs around, dps them, and shift a boss around. If you had 4 arms you could do it.

Pre-BC raids no problem, none at all. Most of them required you to stand there, heal and dps. No movement. nothing. karazan wont' be that bad except prince and chess.

The lack of the ability to move when random events occur (any ground flame is bad!) is going to be the stop gap for raiding BC content. EQ has mobs that stand there and let you be stupid and mash buttons. WoW requires mobility and split 2nd timing.

Have fun in 5/10 mans. I'll eat a bowl full of dog biscuts if this pack downs Kael or Vasjh!

Level a 4 shamans and a paladin to 70. try it. If you like it, finish the rest. You can train all day long after you get to 70, you are wasting your time attempting to tag mobs and dps them down as only the group that tagged the mob gets the xp credit, the rest are wasting time.

[TheBigBB]

Hydross would actually be possible for a MB player, I think, but getting the tanks into resist gear and doing the transitions properly would be a huge pain. Still, if you go that right the DPS don't need to move much, and there's not a lot of damage going around. But that's assuming your entire team is in epics to help them survive some hits and do enough damage and healing for a long fight. Most 25 mans you wouldn't even begin to be able to do. Less than 10% of the fights would even be possible at all, and only if you'd raided them extensively solo to see how it works.

[Bigdady92]

Hydross would actually be possible for a MB player, I think, but getting the tanks into resist gear and doing the transitions properly would be a huge pain. Still, if you go that right the DPS don't need to move much, and there's not a lot of damage going around. But that's assuming your entire team is in epics to help them survive some hits and do enough damage and healing for a long fight. Most 25 mans you wouldn't even begin to be able to do. Less than 10% of the fights would even be possible at all, and only if you'd raided them extensively solo to see how it works.

The moving of hydross backwards and forwards and 'de-syncing' or not moving the frost tank when it's time to transition, all while holding down the 4 mob spawns, and healing the people who tank damage would astound me. Hell it took my guild several weeks just trying to find the right 25 people to do this right, getting 1 person to be able to do this right is like Ice skating up hill, some motherfarker is always trying to do it

[Schwarz]

I really really really wanna try to burn down some of these 25 man bosses in wotlk.

High king has 760k hp and his four adds have 300k hp. If you bring 25 dps into there you might be able to down him before High King kills 25 earth elementals. If every shaman hit for around 2k with lightning bolt you could down each add in 6 casts (9seconds) so after ~40 seconds you would be moving onto High king how would die in ~23seconds.

So full fight over in less than a minute and a half. The question is how do you last that minute and a half.

edit:bloodlust would bring the time down significantly

[Rin]

Make friends with other boxers who have a variety of classes and do it the 5-man 25 man raid style way ;-)

[Sam DeathWalker]

Leveling has been slow cause I havn't been playing much. 1 group 1/2 level per hour? heh ... Im doing 2X or 3X better then that I am sure, but at low levels, we will see if its about the same number of killz per level at higher levels.

I really need to find some fast spawning eliets.

Im in barrens now, and going to head to "wetlands" (wherever that is) gnoll camps when I hit about 16 or so per posts on this forums they respawn fasts.

Mana has yet to be an issue, so anywhere there are lots of fast spawning mobs is best for me.

Mining and Smithing havnt turned out so profitable, if that guy didnt give me 1 gold I be in trouble. At any rate all the 10's have their fire, earth shocks and lightnight level 2 (fire level 1) spells. And the two that are level 12 gots their rez.

If I find an instant spawn mob thats like 8 levels in a few hours right there.

[kayb]

There is one alternative that noone has covered yet, but it's not possible until around level 60. I'm talking about full blown raid leveling. I haven't seen the scaling of xp in raids lately, but I remember back in the day raiding Zul'Gurub with a level 59 mage. I got like 20.000 xp for the whole instance (not a lot yeah) if my memory isnt completely washed.

But I'm not thinking about raid instances right now, I'm thinking about the super elites in Blasted Lands and Winterspring. If you remember the old Kazzak thrash mobs, scaled for 40 man raids. At some point when I was leveling my shammy team I went to Blasted Lands just to check out if it was possible to grind those. They were riddiculously hard, but I managed to kill one mob. Thing is, I can't remember what level I was when I tried this. With 26 guys, you should be able to grind those pretty smoothly, but I wouldn't even think about it until at least level 58. The elites in winterspring was not so hard, I remember soloing those at level 60 (singleboxing a hunter) and selling the priest epic questitem on AH for decent prices, but the elites in Blasted Lands is probably among the hardest non-instanced "generic" mobs in the game.

http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=8717#comments <--- This is one of the mobs I'm talking about. Should be fairly easily soloable for a level 70 character of any kind, the question is whether or not they're grindable at say level 58-60, with a decent xp reward.

[zanthor]

I really really really wanna try to burn down some of these 25 man bosses in wotlk.

High king has 760k hp and his four adds have 300k hp. If you bring 25 dps into there you might be able to down him before High King kills 25 earth elementals. If every shaman hit for around 2k with lightning bolt you could down each add in 6 casts (9seconds) so after ~40 seconds you would be moving onto High king how would die in ~23seconds.

So full fight over in less than a minute and a half. The question is how do you last that minute and a half.

edit:bloodlust would bring the time down significantly

The mage has a point blank ae that would wipe all the earth elementals in about 3-10 seconds.

[kayb]

I guess it could be possible with 24 shammies and 1 hunter. Hunter leaves his pet at the instance entrance, misdirects everyone on his pet, and heroism/bloodlusted shammies + hunter goes to town on Maulgar.

Lets say you were able to reach 40.000 raid dps. It would take you about 20 seconds to kill maulgar. Should be possible with good enough geared toons. =D

Edit: If misdirection range is an issue, you could bring the pet closer, and send it to attack a target dummy or something that you previously popped there. Or simply have a person take aggro and run out of the instance (Edit again: Or even better, bring a beefy tank who could tank a few precious seconds before dying at the instance entrance). You'll need heroism/bloodlust in all groups, and probably around 10-15 earth elementals, so other ranged dps could work as well. Maybe 1 oomkin in each group for extra dps or whatnot.

Btw, when the first ever 25boxer is able to do this (you could use a simplified strategy of sacrificing 1 toon that you aggro with and run to the entrance with) I want credit for strategy! =D