So i stepped in outlands

[Naysayer]

You won't down the dragon unless you have a tank, because he owns shaman souls and he eats them for breakfast.

Wrong, i did him at 62 with 5 shamans pretty easy actually and hes far from as hard as the 2nd boss in BF to me. The trash was the hardest part in ramparts for me and farming the firstboss in BF is certainly nice xp and the items are awsome. I also managed to get 2 blue spelldamage daggers who drops from trash wich is just as good as the mace and boe.

Probably because dragon doesn't like the taste of lies and deceit.

[Dominian]

You won't down the dragon unless you have a tank, because he owns shaman souls and he eats them for breakfast.

Wrong, i did him at 62 with 5 shamans pretty easy actually and hes far from as hard as the 2nd boss in BF to me. The trash was the hardest part in ramparts for me and farming the firstboss in BF is certainly nice xp and the items are awsome. I also managed to get 2 blue spelldamage daggers who drops from trash wich is just as good as the mace and boe.

Probably because dragon doesn't like the taste of lies and deceit.

Naysayer every topic you say pretty much everything is not possible because you never managed to do it, but that doesnt mean there are better people around. The movie is not me btw but zhap a shaman from Kazzak EU same server as me..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqrCuKmGE5M

And if you find stomping grounding totems and casting lbolt at the same time hard then im sorry to say that you have issues...

[Naysayer]

You won't down the dragon unless you have a tank, because he owns shaman souls and he eats them for breakfast.

Wrong, i did him at 62 with 5 shamans pretty easy actually and hes far from as hard as the 2nd boss in BF to me. The trash was the hardest part in ramparts for me and farming the firstboss in BF is certainly nice xp and the items are awsome. I also managed to get 2 blue spelldamage daggers who drops from trash wich is just as good as the mace and boe.

Probably because dragon doesn't like the taste of lies and deceit.

Naysayer every topic you say pretty much everything is not possible because you never managed to do it, but that doesnt mean there are better people around. The movie is not me btw but zhap a shaman from Kazzak EU same server as me..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqrCuKmGE5M

And if you find stomping grounding totems and casting lbolt at the same time hard then im sorry to say that you have issues...

QQmore noob. It was a joke, pull the stick out.

[Stealthy]

Here's a link to my guide - Stealthy's Guide to Elemental Shaman Outlands Gear - 2.0

I was able to clear ramps at 61, after doing all the gear quests. The first boss is a pain, mainly due to his charge/knockback ability - I just DPS his healers down first (open with an trinketed EM CL) & make sure I have the right totems down - 5 x healing stream, 5 x searing, stoneskin, 5 x grounding (for the healer's SW: P). Heal any sham that gets to 50% health as Gargolmar hits hard & fast - having a target=focustargettarget heal macro helps a lot here.

2nd boss is cake with grounding totems. Don't forget to spread your guys out so the boss debuff doesn't kill you.

3rd boss can be tricky. For phase one (dragon still in the air), make sure you have grounding totems down - they will abosrb the fireball, but not the pool of fire. Bind keys that strafe your whole party left or right so you can quickly get out of the fire. Sub one healing stream totem for a fire resist totem. For phose two - when I dropped Vazruden, I sent a single shammy to pick up Nazan - the main reason is that i dont want everyone caught in his cone of fire spell. Let the solo sham get off one frost shock and one LB to get a head start on agro, then unload with all guys (tinketed EM CL) - barring any unclucky crit sequences, you should be able to hold argo long enough on your single sham to drop him.

Cheers,
S.

[Bradster]

Depends on the group, my locks I waited a few levels after 60. the shams I did it at 59 no problem. The last boss you can forget until like 65. You can't kill the dragon first anyomore. Its funny I can down bosses in Mana tombs, and other instances that are harder just fine, pre Rock elemental tanks to help out is a reaaaaalllllllllllllllll bitch even with a tank on that dragon.

[NoobShammy]

was a long trip but made it lvl 61 X5 shamans, started questing to replace my nub gear
any idea when its effecient and ramparts becomes doabl?

To be honest the lower zones unless you need the rep to honored is a bit pointless just keep grinding with the 1 acception of blood furnace 1st boss for Diamond core sledgemace http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24384

i am 64 now and farming the 1st boss till i get this mace for my x5 shaman team. Then off to underbog to rep up the last 2k to honored.

[Tasty]

Well if you stepped in it you should go wipe it off your feet :P

[NoobShammy]

You won't down the dragon unless you have a tank, because he owns shaman souls and he eats them for breakfast.

Wrong, i did him at 62 with 5 shamans pretty easy actually and hes far from as hard as the 2nd boss in BF to me. The trash was the hardest part in ramparts for me and farming the firstboss in BF is certainly nice xp and the items are awsome. I also managed to get 2 blue spelldamage daggers who drops from trash wich is just as good as the mace and boe.

Ok I guess I am really really missing something here. I am 64 x5 shamans wtih 5k health 6k mana now. I STILL can NOT kill this boss. What i have tried is to pull the 2 low lev elites up teh ramp to not agro the rider. Run back in and drop gorudning totems for the dragon. As i get close to him he keeps running away to the point where if i do get closer the rider will agro.??? I cant seem to get close to dps the dragon down to 30% w/o agroing the rider.

[Stealthy]

You won't down the dragon unless you have a tank, because he owns shaman souls and he eats them for breakfast.

Wrong, i did him at 62 with 5 shamans pretty easy actually and hes far from as hard as the 2nd boss in BF to me. The trash was the hardest part in ramparts for me and farming the firstboss in BF is certainly nice xp and the items are awsome. I also managed to get 2 blue spelldamage daggers who drops from trash wich is just as good as the mace and boe.

Ok I guess I am really really missing something here. I am 64 x5 shamans wtih 5k health 6k mana now. I STILL can NOT kill this boss. What i have tried is to pull the 2 low lev elites up teh ramp to not agro the rider. Run back in and drop gorudning totems for the dragon. As i get close to him he keeps running away to the point where if i do get closer the rider will agro.??? I cant seem to get close to dps the dragon down to 30% w/o agroing the rider.

Umm...why not just drop the rider first?

[Saevio]

I do it that way too, just keep your distance from the rider, he wont aggro you if you stay back.

The dragon seemed to fly in and out of range from my group, so when he's in range, DPS him, when he's out of range, just hold your ground and keep those Grounding Totems up, if you have those down, you take 0 damage until he lands.

At around 35-40%, he lands, but he wont aggro the rider (at least, he never did with me, you sure you're not hitting him with chain lightning?). Then just hit Elemental Mastery/Trinket and kill him as quickly as possible, if you can, try to have whichever shaman he has targetted run forwards and to the side a bit, that way you can save the rest of your group from eating a fire breath attack.

Or, just buy some Greater or Major Fire Protection Potions, that's what I did at 61 to down him.

The second boss of Blood Furnace however, I can't do, will have to try again at 63.