What I had in mind was high level heroics (perhaps Kara, for those few that attempt it) - I haven't really gotten past the Tier 4 area in my soloing career, so I'm not sure whether even the higher-level badge gear "outgears" these to a degree that you can get away without CC. Should I qualify the statement more (ie. "If you want to run end-game Heroics, you need CC"), or is it really a false statement? Can a Pally+4xShaman team get through all the heroics?