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  1. #1

    Default Suggestions for improvement on my macros for crowd control.

    I've recently switched over to use focus for following and assisting.
    This causes a slight problem when I want to sheep/shackle/banish a secondary target repeatedly while fighting another mob.

    I've come up with a solution for my group, but I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions to make it more efficient.
    Right now, I don't have a focus set on the party leader, so I use that for the target I want to keep out of the picture.
    I just have to click the focus..and then hit my macro key.

    Here's what I have so far (I'm doing this from memory, so the set raid target isn't correct).

    Paladin keys:

    Alt1 key:
    /stopattack
    #/set raid target 7
    /focus

    Alt2 key:
    /stopattack
    #/set raid target 8
    /focus

    Alt3 key:
    /stopattack
    #/set raid target 5
    /focus

    Mage Key:

    Alt1 key:
    /stopcasting
    /assist [target=focus, noharm]
    /assist [target=focus, noharm]
    /p Sheeping %T
    /cast Polymorph

    Priest Key:

    Alt2 key:
    /stopcasting
    /assist [target=focus, noharm]
    /assist [target=focus, noharm]
    /p Shackling %T
    /cast Shackle Undead

    WarlockKey:

    Alt3 key:
    /stopcasting
    /assist [target=focus, noharm]
    /assist [target=focus, noharm]
    /p Banishing %T
    /cast Banish
    Everquest II - <Pain for Glory> on Nektulos Server
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    (Guardian: Tukilu | Templar: Ajechu | Warden: Fayanna | Conjuror: Akaesia | Troubador: Lollah | Warlock: Onona) X 27-ish[/align]

  2. #2

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    Hi,

    one question, when you are using your focus for assisting and following (which means, the focus of your toons is set to the leader), why not simple using the 'target' of a toon for the cc-target, cause you don't need to target an enemy to dps him.

    DPS-Macro-Example:
    (simple dps-cast for the warlock)

    /cast [target=focustarget,harm] shadowbolt

    then you could use the target of your toons for asigning cc, by targeting the mob which should be cc-ed with your leader, an using the follwoing makro on your toon which should cc the target:

    /target [target=focustarget]

    For the actual cc you can then use the following macro (here for the mage):

    /stopcasting
    /cast [harm,nodead] [target=focustarget,harm,nodead] Polymorph

    This would try to cast Polymorph on the current target of the toon (which would be the befor the battle assigned cc-target) or if this wasn't set,is freindly or dead would try to cast it on the current target of the main.
    OLIPCS - ordinary life is pretty complex stuff
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    Pala, Priest, Druid, Hunter, Mage
    Focusless Targetless Leaderless - Wiki
    HotKeyNet - Guide

  3. #3

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    I think I understand what you are saying. But I think there is (or was?) a problem with cast sequences not resetting if you don't change your real target.
    I know I ran into this before, and I think it's why I started using /assist focus.
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  4. #4

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    Argh, right! There would be a problem with reset=target in castsequences....

    ..sry, i was writting the above from sratch, i personaly use this the other way around, meaning:

    I use the actual target for the dps-target, and focus for cc.
    Defining who is the leader I do by using a modified ftl-aproach (see:Focusless, targetless, 'leaderless' setup. )

    in this aproach reset=target works, cause i'm actual targeting the mob to dps.
    Do you use keyclone? -Perhaps a similar setup would work for you?
    -personaly I find it very usefull for switching the leader "on the fly".
    OLIPCS - ordinary life is pretty complex stuff
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    Pala, Priest, Druid, Hunter, Mage
    Focusless Targetless Leaderless - Wiki
    HotKeyNet - Guide

  5. #5

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    hrmm..I could have sworn I read that thread. The only reason I'm using /focus now is to change leaders on the fly.
    If I can get around it, then I'd love to have my focus back for cc.
    And yes, I am using KeyClone too.

    Thanks for the suggestions!
    Everquest II - <Pain for Glory> on Nektulos Server
    (Shadowknight: Uhmono| Inquisitor: Blyssia | Warden: Wysh | Defiler: Gahealju | Troubador: Moxia | Warlock: Phyrloc) X 51
    (Guardian: Tukilu | Templar: Ajechu | Warden: Fayanna | Conjuror: Akaesia | Troubador: Lollah | Warlock: Onona) X 27-ish[/align]

  6. #6

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    Ah, after reading some of that I remembered why I just went with focus.

    I have 1 assist key, and 1 follow key.
    And what I was running into was when I would change leaders, swap PiP to the leader, the macro was failing due to the leader always assisting party1..and losing the actual target.
    If there was a way to /stopmacro [if_you_are_the_leader] it would be awesome. I just gave up and wanted to get back to playing so I left it.
    Everquest II - <Pain for Glory> on Nektulos Server
    (Shadowknight: Uhmono| Inquisitor: Blyssia | Warden: Wysh | Defiler: Gahealju | Troubador: Moxia | Warlock: Phyrloc) X 51
    (Guardian: Tukilu | Templar: Ajechu | Warden: Fayanna | Conjuror: Akaesia | Troubador: Lollah | Warlock: Onona) X 27-ish[/align]

  7. #7

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    actual there is the option "/stopmacro [if_you_are_the_leader]" by simply using a "/stopmacro [nomod]" i think.

    I have 1 assist key, and 1 follow key.
    Take a closer look, to the modification I described (post 59 on the thread), it sounds exactly like what you are looking for.
    I'm also using this with an "assist" and "follow" key, where you have to hit the assist key everytime you want your "slaves" to change their target.
    The benefit of it is, that you can target other mobs with your main (for me my tank) than your toons are dpsing.
    Another benefit is, that you only have to setup keybindings for 2 "Buttons" in keyclone, not for every ability.
    OLIPCS - ordinary life is pretty complex stuff
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    Pala, Priest, Druid, Hunter, Mage
    Focusless Targetless Leaderless - Wiki
    HotKeyNet - Guide

  8. #8

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    I used to use:

    Assist Macro
    /a [target=focus, party][target=party1]

    Follow macro
    /f focus
    /stopmacro [target=focus, help]
    /f party1

    Both work fine as long as your master char has focus set to himself.

  9. #9

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    @OLIPCS - I'll read further into it and probably give it a shot tonight.
    I only PvE, and liked to have my slave toons keep DPS'ing while being able to switch targets too.
    I see we are also running similar groups..but I have a resto shaman and shadow priest.

    Thanks again for the help!


    Quote Originally Posted by 'Zuri',index.php?page=Thread&postID=116435#post116 435
    I used to use:

    Assist Macro
    /a [target=focus, party][target=party1]

    Follow macro
    /f focus
    /stopmacro [target=focus, help]
    /f party1

    Both work fine as long as your master char has focus set to himself.
    This would probably work, but my main goal was to be able to use a crowd control setup again.
    Everquest II - <Pain for Glory> on Nektulos Server
    (Shadowknight: Uhmono| Inquisitor: Blyssia | Warden: Wysh | Defiler: Gahealju | Troubador: Moxia | Warlock: Phyrloc) X 51
    (Guardian: Tukilu | Templar: Ajechu | Warden: Fayanna | Conjuror: Akaesia | Troubador: Lollah | Warlock: Onona) X 27-ish[/align]

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Frosty',index.php?page=Thread&postID=116439#post1 16439

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Zuri',index.php?page=Thread&postID=116435#post116 435
    I used to use:

    Assist Macro
    /a [target=focus, party][target=party1]

    Follow macro
    /f focus
    /stopmacro [target=focus, help]
    /f party1

    Both work fine as long as your master char has focus set to himself.
    This would probably work, but my main goal was to be able to use a crowd control setup again.
    I normally run with Paladin as the master and use focus for CC on my mages, lock, and priest so the above works ok for me.

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