Who's the 30 boxer? :)

[Korruptor]

Ok one thing I been thinking about is that people are saying the boss mobs cant be boxed in WoW for some reason or other. As you saw in EQ I have a large number of entirely different classes, and EQ is harder then WoW. Can someone give me a url as to exactly why boss mobs in WoW are somehow different then EQ mobs that makes them impossible for boxers?

A URL? How about personal experience? Most bosses in WoW require players to make very precise and coordinated movements and spell choices, or it's a wipe. You can't even get past those mechanics by outleveling most of the time - though possibly if you were 20 levels ahead. The Molten Core is the only instance that resembles EQ raid design, from what I know about the games, and as such it can be 3 manned anyway. You still need 20+ INDIVIDUALS to take on level 60 Naxxramas at level 70!

Some mechanics could be brute-forced by waiting for the next expansion, but not most of them. How about random, extremely deadly fires shooting all over the ground and players getting punted into the sky, where one death means the raid wipes or nearly wipes? You need to micromanage movement over ALL your characters and use special items at the exact moment to not die from fall damage. Fall damage isn't something you can mitigate with levelups. I mean, really, how can you precisely move 25 at one time in totally different directions? WoW is full of battles requiring SPLIT SECOND movement out of fire and looting special items and using them at the right time. There's even a fight where you turn into a ghost who goes and does battle with other ghosts, and you have two separate ghosts going at once. I don't even know if a level 80 squad will be able to bypass this by having enough DPS to kill the boss before you wipe. The only time you would be able to do a WoW raid boss is if you can kill it before the mechanics matter, which isn't that much of an accomplishment. People stick to 5 and a few 10 mans because many or most of those bosses can be micromanaged well enough. But even then, not even an experienced boxer has full cleared the easiest 10-man there is.

Don't bother trying to convince Sam of anything. If this thread is a testimony of anything it is that he thinks the end game for WoW will be a cake-walk for a 20+ boxer and so much easier then EQ. Let him level his 26/27 characters with his stubborn misconception of what he'll be able to do with end game bosses and then he will understand that while leveling in EQ is harder then in WoW the end game raiding in WoW is far more challenging.

Experience is the best teacher. Let him learn his lesson.