What's the toughest part about Malygos anyway? I need to get "Prepared" for this encounter. :-)
What's the toughest part about Malygos anyway? I need to get "Prepared" for this encounter. :-)
When you get to 80, take a single character in there and you'll understand how hard it would be to do it. You need to have him turned away fro mthe raid, controll adds, ALOT of healing, having people on hover disc ( phase 2 ) and then control a dragon ( each) ( phase 3 )
If anyone could single handily multi box this I would be VERY impressed.
Have a look @ this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYqJ-8FiXCI
Alright, I've seen the video, it doesn't look too bad. The main thing appears to be that when the encounter is started, the team needs to have really good gear as always. Given that the entire raid stays together for most of the encounter, it appears to be doable by a 10 box team. With the 19k damage on the main tank, he needs to have really really good gear as well as the rest of the 10 man team. The thing most of you probably are not aware, but my 10 man team has the absolute best 10 classes for boxing (I believe) in the game:Originally Posted by 'Azerial',index.php?page=Thread&postID=163718#post 163718
1 Death Knight (Main tank)
1 Warlock (DPS)
1 Shaman some protection and DPS
1 Hunter DPS
1 Priest Healing
1 Druid DPS and some healing
2 Paladins DPS and some healing
2 Mages DPS
With the above, at level 72 on all of them, I've been able to kill 4 level 80s consistently. On two occasions I've run into 4 level 80s and wiped them without them killing any of my team. As I've said in a prior post, I believe the days of the single class group are over. I could be wrong, but with the above 10 man team, I can tackle just about anything in the game. I'm now at level 73 on them and can't wait to see what they can do at level 80! :-)
Malygos is an easy encounterIf you do Sartharion with 3 drakes up, then your the best!
Even without drakes up i will see some problems.
Malygos encounter is just spam spam spam spam spam kill!
Oh, I'm afraid that I must beg to differ. I have 5 80 characters, and another 5 at 78. Since this is all epeen waving, it doesn't really matter what they are so much as can I construct a way to declare myself better than you, and I've done just that.
By my reckoning I'm at 790/800 while you're still at a paltry 730/800, meaning that I've amassed at whopping 60/800th advantage, and shall now claim the title of "absolute best 10 man team" from your fallen corpse. YAY ME!
Don't even get me started on Mr. Failwalker. His sad devotion to that ancient MMO (EQ) has not allowed him to conjure enough levels. Nor has it given him clairvoyence enough to locate a clue about how to play WoW. Even suffering a staggering 16 character defecit, I'm still, by my calculations, enjoying a healthy 166/2080th advantage clearly making me the almost certainly disputed best boxer in WoW at this time as far as I know.
No matter where you go, there you are.
Ya well thats why I think the best measure is who has taken out the strongest NPC "solo" boxing.
Anyone can level up 5 at a time and buy a bunch of accounts, if you can't kill a stong mob with yur crew, it dosn't mean anything.
I agree everyone is ahead of my whatever level 30 mob I'v killed lol ... but I get stonger every day.
And if you want to limit it "the best 10 box team" would be the team that has taken out the strongest NPC with their 10.
I don't know about multiple classes, I did play many different in EQ but there was never a healing/rez/dps/aoe class in EQ. I am sure I will play my Shaman to like 80 percent of what a single character player will play theirs whereas I would question if you can control your 10 man team even to be 65 percent as efficient as 10 single character players, espically if you have multiple mellee classes.
Would you be leveling faster doing thunderstorms on all your shaman or doing these multiple classes?
Well I don't know... lets see what time will tell.
Malygos is an easy encounter
Even without drakes up i will see some problems.
Malygos encounter is just spam spam spam spam spam kill!
awwww, you guys are changing it now. I just said my plan was to do Malygos because players were saying it was a tough encounter and that I would win WoW if I did it. Then they even posted videos of the event and I said I could do it, now you guys are changing it around? /lol
Nahh, I'm staying with my original goal and keeping with winning WoW by beating Malygos. I'll post videos of it when I do it. Heck, I might even do the 25 raid encounter version of him too. :-)
huh? eh? epeen waving? wtf? Someone challenged me by saying that if I beat this encounter I win WoW and I accepted that challenge. I've not yet done it so I don't see how that is epeen waving but whatever....Oh, I'm afraid that I must beg to differ. I have 5 80 characters, and another 5 at 78. Since this is all epeen waving, it doesn't really matter what they are so much as can I construct a way to declare myself better than you, and I've done just that.
By my reckoning I'm at 790/800 while you're still at a paltry 730/800, meaning that I've amassed at whopping 60/800th advantage, and shall now claim the title of "absolute best 10 man team" from your fallen corpse. YAY ME!
Don't even get me started on Mr. Failwalker. His sad devotion to that ancient MMO (EQ) has not allowed him to conjure enough levels. Nor has it given him clairvoyence enough to locate a clue about how to play WoW. Even suffering a staggering 16 character defecit, I'm still, by my calculations, enjoying a healthy 166/2080th advantage clearly making me the almost certainly disputed best boxer in WoW at this time as far as I know.
Contrary to what many believe, WoW is a game. All games have a factor in them called 'luck' which means that no matter what your skill level is or how good you believe a player to be, they will never win all of the time. I see many players post percentage information and speak about skill a lot but rarely does anyone speak about the 'luck' factor of the game. And luck involves many different things. In a large PvP encounter for example, some obvious signs of luck are where the numbers of the enemy players are in relation to where the allies are. That usually has a huge factor in the outcome of the battle which is why arena battles don't have as much luck in them as do large scale encounters. And since we're on the subject of arena battles here, the best multiboxers of arenas are those that box without help. (/duck - I know I'm going to get flamed on this one - but it's true, the really good multiboxing arena players are not the ones that post videos in arenas with 22xx rating while they have a good healer with them)
Having said that, anyone that has multiple melee classes being boxed is truly a good boxer in my opinion because the movement in boxing is the toughest part. Choosing which spells to cast at the right time is not difficult, but movement is. This is why I said the Malygos encounter doesn't look too difficult because the bulk of the raid force is almost entirely together. The main tank moves around from side to side with strafe but the rest of the raid is together casting on various things.
Contrary to what many believe, WoW is a game. All games have a factor in them called 'luck' which means that no matter what your skill level is or how good you believe a player to be, they will never win all of the time. I see many players post percentage information and speak about skill a lot but rarely does anyone speak about the 'luck' factor of the game. And luck involves many different things. In a large PvP encounter for example, some obvious signs of luck are where the numbers of the enemy players are in relation to where the allies are. That usually has a huge factor in the outcome of the battle which is why arena battles don't have as much luck in them as do large scale encounters. And since we're on the subject of arena battles here, the best multiboxers of arenas are those that box without help. (/duck - I know I'm going to get flamed on this one - but it's true, the really good multiboxing arena players are not the ones that post videos in arenas with 22xx rating while they have a good healer with them)
Having said that, anyone that has multiple melee classes being boxed is truly a good boxer in my opinion because the movement in boxing is the toughest part. Choosing which spells to cast at the right time is not difficult, but movement is. This is why I said the Malygos encounter doesn't look too difficult because the bulk of the raid force is almost entirely together. The main tank moves around from side to side with strafe but the rest of the raid is together casting on various things.
That's only phase 1 ...
The encounter has 3 big phases, of which 2 will be very easy when you outgear them. However with gear currently available in the game I don't see this happening single boxed.
Difficulties:
Phase 1: You have to use sparks to up the dps. Sparks come from the sky and fly towards malygos. You have to find the sparks, pull them to the raid and kill them. If malygos absorbs a spark he gets a 50 or 100% dmg increase (cant remember). If he does his aoe at that point it's a wipe. Missing sparks as a boxer will be _very_ easy.
Phase2: Ground part will be relatively easy, just move from bubble to bubble and kill the mobs.
Now then, 2nd part of phase 2 and phase 3 is going to be 'impossible' unless they change vehicles to be followable.
2nd part of phase 2 requires u to go on a hoover disc (vehicle) and fly around while u kill mobs. U can't park them and let them attack because the mobs fly around.
Phase 3: Everyone has a vehicle. You have to get combo points to be able to get a dot rolling. The dot has to stack to get him down before enrage. 1 or 2 will have to heal (on the vehicle, once again by gathering combo points & aoe healing).
1 huge problem here: Vehicles cant follow. In phase 3 there is aoe sparks u have to move out of within 2 seconds or u wipe. EVERYONE has to move out of it. Every 10 seconds or so a few people will get targetted by a beam that will kill you unless you have a shield active. This shield is only usable if you have enough combo points for it. Once again, you only have splitseconds of time to react.
Hats off if you box this encounter before vehicles have the /follow ability (will get alot easier when they do), but I don't see it happening.
Sartharion 3 drakes is tactic wise a lot less complex, however let's assume all ur characters have a gearlevel of ilvl 213 epics which is generally best ingame atm, you will never box this. The encounter requires multiple tanking positions, multiple mobile healers and the dps has to be skyhigh (that means /castsequence isn't gonna cut it, never). Every 30 seconds or so theres a wall of lava going through the 'map' where EVERYONE has to move into a gap. No this is not a hit follow thing to get them all stacked, doing that gets u breathed and ull wipe instantly. It will require you to move all your chars to at least 3 different positions, depending on where they currently stand. Oh and, through the fight you also have 1 mobile tank that picks up adds that spawn randomly accross the map.
GL with all that, but beating either of these encounters without massively outgearing them or having them changed by blizard is not likely!
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