Who's the 30 boxer? :)

[BobGnarly]

My "long term" might be a bit longer then yours:

Well, OK. If by "long term" you meant "let's wait and see if he plays wow as long as it's been since I was listed on a piece of paper with Gary Gygax," then you're probably right...I doubt he'll be 36 boxing shaman in 39 years.

And while it might be true that your "long term" is longer than mine (ehem../cough), it might not be. You know what they say about assuming things.

[Zub]

so, apart from lagging Orgrimmar, i'm still unsure what people will be able to do with 26/32 toons. I'm genuinely interested, but can't see.
- instances? nope, limited to 5/10
- 25man raids? i sure doubt it with shamies and/or 1 paly
- arena? nope
- bgs? only av (so far) and its going to be boring real fast
- World pvp? can't see it happening, but who knows. Maybe standing in a spot for a couple hours will bring some enemies, but in any case it's going to be a lag fest.
The only answer i'ev got so far was 'going to kill some mobs to get the phat lootz' or something similar.

if it's only an epeen thing, then ok, why not. To each their own.

[Naysayer]

so, apart from lagging Orgrimmar, i'm still unsure what people will be able to do with 26/32 toons. I'm genuinely interested, but can't see.
- instances? nope, limited to 5/10
- 25man raids? i sure doubt it with shamies and/or 1 paly
- arena? nope
- bgs? only av (so far) and its going to be boring real fast
- World pvp? can't see it happening, but who knows. Maybe standing in a spot for a couple hours will bring some enemies, but in any case it's going to be a lag fest.
The only answer i'ev got so far was 'going to kill some mobs to get the phat lootz' or something similar.

if it's only an epeen thing, then ok, why not. To hear their own.

25 dailies x 30 = 9000 gold a day!!!

[Sam DeathWalker]

Why does no one think wintergrasp is viable, I mean even if you dont have spread macros you can just stop auto follow on 5 at a time to spread out and not die to bombs.

Someoone said you get 4000 hero ponints or something I forget honor maybe whatever (doh Im such a noob) for killing enemy city bosses, is that possible?

Look

1. They guy posts here under "termor" (or something the guy asking about 15 is max or not and under "prepared", he did 5 or so posts under prepared helping others out.

2. The guy has not himself claimed he 30 boxes. Does that not strike anyone as odd at all, considering he was very concered if 15 was the max or not?

3. Even if they are not trial accounts, he has not paid a dime yet. I have 6 months on ALL 26 of my accounts and my credit card will nto be drawn for 1 week and 1 month, LOTS of time to get to level 21 if not past 60. Lets see if he is still around in 8 months if he is then Ill think about what to do different.

4. He is not running a SINGLE mellee, thats means he is not able to set up his system to micro manage one character, which means umm well not sure yet.

5. Like everyone says this is not all that easy. I don't have a wife, I don't have childern, I don't have a 40 hour a week job, I don't have anyone to tell me what I can do or can't do with my time. Not a lot of people are in the postition I am. Plus I am older and know what its like to have done this or that, when you are young you always think that you will be happy when you do or have X thing, so there is lots to distract.'

6. On the other hand someone saw him kill a 70 rough and hunter multiple times today ...

See the last 5 posts here:

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/retar...ng-wow-15.html

7. Still not a single log of his exploits, I have tons and tons of EQ logs.

Some one stated a few hours ago: "I tried finding him with a lv1 char, but I wasn't able to... I did get my char to Hillsbrad, but he was on the farm and there is no way you can get a lv 1 all the way to the farm" without dying 100 times

[Xzin]

Sam,

I understand your reasons for wanting to box 27 or so characters. I hope you do it and get 80 on them all. I am too in a similar position in life although younger. Do what makes you happy.

My only question is what exactly do you hope to accomplish? Destruction in PvP? You will smash face in Wintergrasp, no doubt. People will still try to (and will) pick some of your guys off. If you can rez in place then who cares? Take a look at the siege weapons. They might hurt a bit but who knows. Bombing runs might be an issue but the dps is massive to say the least.

But what is your GOAL here? To beat people in PvP? I still don't get the 27 characters - why not 25? But still - I am looking forward to seeing how this unfolds. Do what you love man.

[Sam DeathWalker]

I have 27 accounts. I will play 26 of them, the 27th is so that all 26 get the free mounts. Ill discontinue the 27th account (unless I get some buffing class maybe - not sure).

The reason I picked 26 is because I have 6 computers, no other reason.

I could play 24 I suppose but 5 computers with 5 characters each and 1 computer (the main) with just one character on it with full resolution and effects seems to nice to pass up. In fact if it works out good here Ill probably move from 24 to 26 in EQ. The edge of always having your main controlable is very strong. I can play ONE character as perfect as any single toon player, and do simple heals and casts with the other 25. I think my set up will give me an edge over the 30/32 boxer guy. But we will see.

My goal is to singally kill the strongest pve mob there is (as any pvp goal is going to be hard to set, and wont be as universal as a pve goal), by one person, and then to do some winning in pvp, maybe there will be some kind of wintergrasp ladder or leaderboard....

If I kill a stronger pve mob then anyone by themselves then I think I can claim to be the best single player. Might take years to get to that point but we will see.

How would you say who the best single person player in wow is right now? I would think that whoever killed the strongest boss mob by themselves would have that honor. Same in EQ.

Right now I am leaning towards not tileing, I think the system I use in EQ is adaptable (fliping through each group), has some good points here. Sure I won't be able to cast at the same time with all 25 but I can cast with 5, drop totems with 5, heal with 5, cast cl with 5, all withine .5 seconds of each (I flip though 4 eq groups in 2 seconds). Whats the difference in doing you 25 chain lightings all at once or over 2 seconds ... And I can drop autofollow and spread that way, by group. We will see but right now Im setting up liek i did in EQ. I mean why should I be stuck with casting heal with all 25 ... if I just need 5 heals ... I dont know not 100 percent sure on anything yet, still setting things up. I basically rewrite most of my EQ socials every new camp (I stay at the same camps for a few weeks though), so I am sure I will change but tonight Ill be tryin the old way first.

I don't understand how people play with these tiny little screens in tile mode, and dont play in first person all the time, its just so strange, where is the immersion in the game when you are not in first person?

[Lokked]

In EQ, at lvl 65, another bard and I duo'd Sontilak in WW. I've also soloed Harla Dar in WW. The same bard and I tried Klandicar, but failed, due to him DPSing us faster then we could heal.

We used charm + the entire zone worth of animal mobs and Ice Burrowers to cycle back and forth sending them to tank the dragons. We would stack Harmonic-something (63 debuff to all magic) to prevent charm dispell. When a "pet" died we would take from the pack that was chasing after us and continue. We would take damage quite a bit, as dispells would eat charms at awkward times. We healed using songs and Fungi tunic (crappy, but 52hp/tick helped a lot).

I thought that was a pretty cool achievement.

[Carnage]

Lake wintergrasp is overhyped, it will turn out like the rest of the world pvp zones - maybe its because im on a normal realm, but on our server there is never horde taking nagrand. You dont need 25+ charecters to dominate in pvp, i took my first trip to AV yesterday upon dinging 60, they are still in level 30 year and i was picking them off like flies - untill there mages found out that i had 3k HP and decided to dragons breath + aoe me down ;(

Even if wintergrasp is abit more active than the current world pvp zones, you think there is going to be 20+ alliance in that zone? because without that your not going to get a good battle, it would just be you ganking people - but i guess the only way you can see is if you try it - getting to 70 would be an achievement in itsself

How would you say who the best single person player in wow is right now? I would think that whoever killed the strongest boss mob by themselves would have that honor

I dont see much of the, soloing bosses thing since TBC came - most elites can be solo kited with ease, if its doable its normally easy - and if its not doable its just impossible. But if i was to put my money on anyone it would probablly be faxmonkey (pre-tbc) or one of the korean mages who was soloing UBRS bosses. I do remember solo farming ZG crocs on my mage, great fun and a great challenge - but there must have been at least 1 mage on every realm who could do it.

[Zub]

Why does no one think wintergrasp is viable, I mean even if you dont have spread macros you can just stop auto follow on 5 at a time to spread out and not die to bombs.

Someoone said you get 4000 hero ponints or something I forget honor maybe whatever (doh Im such a noob) for killing enemy city bosses, is that possible?

Look

1. They guy posts here under "termor" (or something the guy asking about 15 is max or not and under "prepared", he did 5 or so posts under prepared helping others out.

2. The guy has not himself claimed he 30 boxes. Does that not strike anyone as odd at all, considering he was very concered if 15 was the max or not?

3. Even if they are not trial accounts, he has not paid a dime yet. I have 6 months on ALL 26 of my accounts and my credit card will nto be drawn for 1 week and 1 month, LOTS of time to get to level 21 if not past 60. Lets see if he is still around in 8 months if he is then Ill think about what to do different.

4. He is not running a SINGLE mellee, thats means he is not able to set up his system to micro manage one character, which means umm well not sure yet.

5. Like everyone says this is not all that easy. I don't have a wife, I don't have childern, I don't have a 40 hour a week job, I don't have anyone to tell me what I can do or can't do with my time. Not a lot of people are in the postition I am. Plus I am older and know what its like to have done this or that, when you are young you always think that you will be happy when you do or have X thing, so there is lots to distract.'

6. On the other hand someone saw him kill a 70 rough and hunter multiple times today ...

See the last 5 posts here:

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/retar...ng-wow-15.html

7. Still not a single log of his exploits, I have tons and tons of EQ logs.

Some one stated a few hours ago: "I tried finding him with a lv1 char, but I wasn't able to... I did get my char to Hillsbrad, but he was on the farm and there is no way you can get a lv 1 all the way to the farm" without dying 100 times

Geesh Sam, watch that ego, it seems to be inflating>.<
Why do you try to bash/suss Temor/prepared? you probably no nothing of his goals, intentions.. Maybe he just thought it would be fun to try lots of toons after reading your post. and RAF'd all his accounts.
Seems to me you're trying to run a race where the other guy doesn't even know there is a race. Who but Temor knows what he wants to do with his toons? maybe he just wants to get to 30 and basta.
Why don't you try and play the game for your own enjoyment instead of this pseudo epeen contest. You might be 'older' but sure sound like a pre-teen to me.

And IF Temor is trying to get them most toons, well, suck it up. To be the best you need to beat the best. Not just try and pinpoint that perhap, maybe, there is a chance that the best is possibly using different accounts or whatnot.

Lots of talk and no action so far. Get your 26 toons to 70/80 and then people will go 'whoaaa', me included. Hell, get ONE toon to 70 to begin with
In the meantime, you're just some dude who bought alot of WoW boxes and is talking lots on the web.

At least, that's what coming out of your posts to me.
-Zub

[Sam DeathWalker]

Thats true enough, can't kill boss mobs with boxes .... Ya lots of talk and no action, but Im talking while my computers are moving files all over the place, if I was done setting up Id be playing so you'll be seeing less talking soon. Had to redo my raptor on my main to match the others ... now I need to move the BC files from the main to the other 5, then make all the winEQ2 set ups, then make the characters, then finally actually play ... rome was not built in a day.

I'm not dissing the guy, Im just saying its a bit soon to claim that he is in fact 30/32 boxing. He reads this forum, its possible he is busy leveling up, but if he has read these threads then he should come in and speak his peace, as I do.

Probably he is it does seem like it but then again far far from all the facts are in.

But even under my own measurment suggestion (killing pve boss mobs), Im still dead last lol ...

People are competitive, what with all the rankings and pvp in wow, I mean there are 100 or more sites just devoted to rankings of all different kinds, trade skills, gold, arena, pve achivments etc. etc.

Its not resonable to say that I'm wrong for being competitive. Next time you get ganked are you going to post that "its unfair cause you weren't playing "competively"".

I'm from Sullon Zek. Level 60's were killing me when I was level 20, 100's of times. Take every ganker and hacker and no holds barred cheater in wow and put them on one server and you'll have it 1/2 as bad as SZ was.

You log in, you die. Welcome to WoW PvP, enjoy your stay.



One nice thing here is that on Zek, I know so many people from buying/selling and them helping me and me helping them, its almost impossible to sort out who is going to attack me or who isnt (in EQ I don't gank I just wait to see if someon attacks me). In WoW its just attack Allience automatically on sight lol, gives me 2 seconds more then I have on Zek.