A plea to all newcomers

[pdx]

taking the advice but it's not there

[keyclone]

taking the advice but it's not there

a bit more would help to address the issue.

which advice and what's not where?

[Sychosys]

I think he is likely refering to some of the vboxing.net links that are outdated and need to be redirected to the weboxing URL now. Some have redirects some do not... usually the v-boxing ones are the ones that are broken.

[TrasZadAr]

Heya all, new to dual boxing, google redirected me to this forum, where i found answers to all my questions. All very helpful guides!

Thanks.

Agen & Torange

[Otlecs]

Updated the links to reflect the new forum layout. Hopefully people will actually use them.

[Dramoth]

This is my second post on here (I think)...

I would like to say that it's a good post to see...

But after mucking about originally with dual-boxing, then tri-boxing and now moving right up to 5 man team, I am slowly working out the macro's keybindings thing myself, but for someone who wants to just jump straight in there and kill everything in site they will find the more technical side of things a bit of an issue.

They will expect to search for a particular macro and find it straight away and be able to cut and paste it into their macro windows and run out and play.

They expect there to be a full help guide if needs be that will hold their hands all the way through the long process of setting up their teams.

In the end, it's a constant learning process for all involved, and I think that also includes the more experienced boxers, and if someone expects to get a golden ticket to loads of awesome and win on their very first visit, they will end up going away disappointed...

But hopefully they will realise that it is a lot of hard work getting everything setup and that in the end... all that hard work is well worth it.

[Gadzooks]

This is my second post on here (I think)...

I would like to say that it's a good post to see...

But after mucking about originally with dual-boxing, then tri-boxing and now moving right up to 5 man team, I am slowly working out the macro's keybindings thing myself, but for someone who wants to just jump straight in there and kill everything in site they will find the more technical side of things a bit of an issue.

They will expect to search for a particular macro and find it straight away and be able to cut and paste it into their macro windows and run out and play.

They expect there to be a full help guide if needs be that will hold their hands all the way through the long process of setting up their teams.

In the end, it's a constant learning process for all involved, and I think that also includes the more experienced boxers, and if someone expects to get a golden ticket to loads of awesome and win on their very first visit, they will end up going away disappointed...

But hopefully they will realise that it is a lot of hard work getting everything setup and that in the end... all that hard work is well worth it.

It doesn't help that a certain person who's banned here, who sells a multiboxing app, runs around telling everyone how easy it all is, and makes grandiose claims of how everything they (a new MBer) will need will be on their forums...and that place is a ghost town, so yeah, some of them probably come here looking for help.

It's also a reflection of the general WoW population now, too. A small amount of people put a ton of work into blogs and websites breaking every aspect of the game down, so most players just plug and play their whole way to end game. That attitude will not work with MBing. A lot of players expect to be walked through everything in the game, thanks to sites like wow.com and MMO champion and such - and then they complain when told to go to Elitist Jerks, because they actually have to read stuff there (they don't hold your hand, either).

This website is a MASSIVE boon to MBers, and I would not be doing it right now, if it were'nt for the sheer wealth of information that's contained here. Walking people through it step by step would only encourage the kind of people who should'nt be MBing - to MB, you need to have an interest in learning how macros work, learning more than one class, and trying things again and again to make it work, constantly tweaking and paying attention to recount and hogging the test dummies trying out rotations. That's why I agree with the policy here that it's each player's job to dig into the material, start reading, read more, play and try it, read more, try it again, and then ask questions.

[Dramoth]

It doesn't help that a certain person who's banned here, who sells a multiboxing app, runs around telling everyone how easy it all is, and makes grandiose claims of how everything they (a new MBer) will need will be on their forums...and that place is a ghost town, so yeah, some of them probably come here looking for help.

It's also a reflection of the general WoW population now, too. A small amount of people put a ton of work into blogs and websites breaking every aspect of the game down, so most players just plug and play their whole way to end game. That attitude will not work with MBing. A lot of players expect to be walked through everything in the game, thanks to sites like wow.com and MMO champion and such - and then they complain when told to go to Elitist Jerks, because they actually have to read stuff there (they don't hold your hand, either).

This website is a MASSIVE boon to MBers, and I would not be doing it right now, if it were'nt for the sheer wealth of information that's contained here. Walking people through it step by step would only encourage the kind of people who should'nt be MBing - to MB, you need to have an interest in learning how macros work, learning more than one class, and trying things again and again to make it work, constantly tweaking and paying attention to recount and hogging the test dummies trying out rotations. That's why I agree with the policy here that it's each player's job to dig into the material, start reading, read more, play and try it, read more, try it again, and then ask questions.

I am not disputing that you should learn all about the thing that you are trying to do and I personally feel that this site is an awesome resource for someone like myself who dabbled in dual-boxing before moving up to a 5 man team. The beginner guides are just that... a guide to get you started on the path, where you go after them is entirely upto you.

And personally, I love going to elitistjerks.com as it helped me with my hunter's dps rotation no end... still isnt the greatest in the world, but hit over 4k dps with a mid-game geared BM hunter I have always loved doing the research into making my toons better... be it going to sites like wow-heroes.com or be.imba.hu or maxdps.com to work out how to get better.

[Ualaa]

There are plenty of basic guides out there, which will get you started.
But really, all they're doing is opening the door.
You still need to walk through it.

You come to a path.
As you walk down the path, there are various forks.
Each fork is a different way to do things.
Depending on the challenge of what you want something to do, and your solution to getting it to work.

Some things one player will want to do, but another player does not need that functionality in their set up.
Chances are, if there are three boxers with one issue, there will be three solutions.
Something really cool about this site, most people who find something neat post it here for others benefits.
That helps the community as a whole, which is a very nice bonus.

If people are willing to put in some effort and search for an answer themselves, they generally get much better responses then asking for everyone to do everything for them.

[Twy]

I agree however I have been reading Dual-Boxer for some time now and the first time I try to relpy to a post it says I am blocked. Now I have to make up 5 comments or questions I had no intention of botherinig you with before I can make the reply to the post i was intending to. i think this makes number 5 so I think its all good now.

Thanks for having the this community I have learned a ton reading through this stuff.