Totems Totems Totems

[NoobShammy]

OK so i want to setup a mini TBC vs WOLK when it comes to totems for x5 shaman setup form a PVE point of view.


TBC

Air: Wrath of Air / x4 grounding
Water: Mana stream / x4 healing stream
Earth: Stoneskin / x4 SC (with rotati on delay if you want to get teh biggest use out of it)
Fire: x5 Totoem of Wrath

IN Wolk things have definitly changed is up with totems being purged and stacking almost fully removed there leaves a concern that 5 shamans not only overkill but redundent.

WOLK

Air: Wrath of air (10% spell haste) / x4 grounding (still not confirmed on stacking)
Water: Mana/heaing stream x5 (these are now merged into 1 totem with a "pulse", no confirmation anywhere i have seen if the 1) raid wide 2) stack
Earth: Stoneskin/windwall / x4 SC (stoneclaw still will able to chain drop providing good cc for those meele mobs)
Fire: totem of wrath / Flametonge / x3 searing ( you could also throw in x3 magma or fire nove for aoe)

So the questions are for WOLK and all you devoted shammys out there

1) Air - does 4 grounding totems still stack

2) Water - does the new mana/healing stream totem
a - raid wide?
b - Stack?
c - If no to b then what are we dropping for the other 4 totems?

3) Earth - buffed as SC will continue and you will get windowall bonus in stoneskin

4) Fire - nerfed (but not BY MUCH!!!). Yes we are going to lose 12% crit and 15% hit but look at what you get
- 6% dmg x5 shaman
- extra dmg from flametongue totem (though offset but change of Wrath of air)
- 3 free dps totems to drop (this is the biggie here if you can catch up on the crit and hit nerf with these 3 totems??????)

/discuss

[Stabface]

Rather not much to discuss I'm afraid, since we don't have the totem stacking changes on beta yet.

[Stealthy]

I deleted your duplicate thread

1. Air - grounding will still stack IMO, becuase of the mechanics that make it work
2. Water - Pulses will mean staggered drops like tremor if it doesnt stack...
3. Earth - not too much change as far as can see
4. Fire - I'd expect wrath to lose stacking since Blizz has said as much. It's a PvE totem anyway, and I think our CC more than makes up for it. For PvP the new talented Fire Nova totem is awesome.

How about some discussion on the new spell rotation?

Cheers,
S.

[merujo]

Correct me here, but the changes being made on Flametongue, are for Flametongue Weapon, and not Flametongue Totem.

This way theres no need to use flametongue totem if ur all ele shamans and i can put a ToW specced shaman, and all other 4 with fire totems for AoE.

[Jaese]

Correct me here, but the changes being made on Flametongue, are for Flametongue Weapon, and not Flametongue Totem.

This way theres no need to use flametongue totem if ur all ele shamans and i can put a ToW specced shaman, and all other 4 with fire totems for AoE.

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=25557

And it stacks with Weapon as well (for the moment, and new ranks haven't been put in either).

[merujo]

lol @ so much crying for ToW

thx for the info Jaese