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  1. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Icetech',index.php?page=Thread&postID=109644#post 109644
    On my BG i can't rush seems soon as the doors open i have people in my face before i even setup totems... tongiht i did my 10 losses.. i killed maybe 7 people in total.. i am a mess in arena im only at 7300 hit points and that doesn't help with 196 res... HATE the arena.... next week im doing it nude and just rushing in to get it over.. WAHHHHHHHHHHh
    lol 7300 hit points and 196 res you cant realy expect much
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  2. #12

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    Usually don't have an issue getting tremor's down, since if they do fear I'll usually have 2 down before it happens.
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  3. #13

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    I've been doing the rush this week, but really just to get my 10 losses over a bit quicker, lol. My healer is out of town and didn't feel like finding another, usually wind up 50-50 or worse anyway so no major loss, just a freebie for those that get me this week. I have been rushing, using NS-CL than just afking, lol. :sleeping:

  4. #14

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Ellay',index.php?page=Thread&postID=109954#post10 9954
    Usually don't have an issue getting tremor's down, since if they do fear I'll usually have 2 down before it happens.
    lol i wish that happens to me. its either ur amazing gear, or the amazing time they take to fear ur team, because with me, theres 2 things they abuse: fears asap and rez's as their team8's die. If im unlucky with my tremors or the place where i kill them, i know its gonna be a long match.

    im working on the positioning as i kill one though.

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  5. #15

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    Well when I rush I don't actually run into them and bump heads, I throw down my totems a little early but I'm close enough that it forces the fight to start. Perhaps my live stream will do better justice.
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    Default RE: New strategy for Arena

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Ellay',index.php?page=Thread&postID=109407#post10 9407
    Focused Targeting, they can't heal what they can't see and the person getting focused has no idea he's about to take damage since it doesn't show up on target of target.
    I've switched my macro's around so that I'm using straight up /assist Main /cast Spell. This does consume a lot of bars and space if the main dies I have to replicate another 2 rows of bars and be able to switch to it smoothly. But opens up the ability to set a focus target on all of my characters that allow me to cast spells at a target they can't see. I will target something else, throw damage at it and then switch to the new target. Success rate is very high with this method as well, but with anything I can still improve on it.

    Just giving a heads up on new techniques I'm putting into the matches.
    Happy this is working out for you It's quite amazing to see a pally targettarget healing the wrong person before they realize their mistake.
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  7. #17

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    I used to Rush alot earlier when i was training alot. Baiscly testing out everything.. And Yes.. i was wining alot. I dont know why i stoped with it, guess i lose a few and then was like "okay, i will go back to basic".. But reall, rushing especialy on blade edge and ruins is awsome. Ruins ismaybe the best one.. If i rush on Blade edge i do it over the bridge as of the Los element in the stairs, and i need to drop totems half way over the bridge aswell.

    I think i preaty much did it like elly says.. Drop totems a bit in front and just nuke directly as they are in range. This way you will start the fight directly. I have allways only used /assist /cast. never learnd the other ways. and never felt i wanted any other ways. But ofc.. if my mains dies i am Solo finishing it. Baiscly i will then target with my main and solo move my shammys form the other windows and spred them out since there is normaly just a few left at that point.

    But really try some rushing. And have your healer to some funny stuff in the begining. Like my pally used to run in and start AOEing and bubble asap, in those seconds where i'm droping totems and starting my casts... While my Resto drood would just charge in one one and start rooting another.

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  8. #18

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    are you using in your alts comething like

    /assist [target=Aelli,nodead][target=Aellie,nodead][target=Aellii,nodead],etc...

    /cast spell

    ?

    i was thinking about to use that macro in my alts and if i press CTRL then something like [mod:CTRL=target=focus] so if i dont press CTRL then i cast on my target and when i press it i cast on the focus.

    if my main dies then i change of window to my alt and then pressing a key i change the hotkeybar of that alt replicating my spells but with no macros. (the other 3 are still using the macros hotkey bar but they will /assist my alt because my main is dead)

    right now im not using the focus to target my opponents but i really really really hate the second of lag in my alts when i change of target with my main. i have lost a lot of arenas because that second of lag. 2 shamans use EM+NS+CL in 1 target and the other 2 shamans in other target for example )

  9. #19

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    There is still a second of lag when using your slaves to focus your main. I used to use the /assist method when I first started boxing, but for the life of me I can't remember if the lag was worse than the lag associated with the focus method. I've busted my EM/NS/CL macro on split targets plenty of times when I first started playing arena's using the focus method; 3 hitting the old target with my lead hitting the new target. I'm just more used to the timing now, but I'm sure i've lost matches due to the time it takes my alts to catch up with my main's target.

    Before I started boxing I used to always be the group/raid leader and I had a macro to mark the kill target with a skull. When I started boxing that was my assist macro on all my alts. Basically i was already in the habbit of marking the kill target, so when I started boxing I would use a button to set the kill target (via assit) on all my alts so they would pew pew and not automatically attack what my warrior was attacking. It worked great in PVE, but for PVP that's not really what you want to be doing using 4 shamans.

    I think using macros on all your characters,

    /assist [target=toon1,nodead,exists,help] [target=toon2,nodead,exists,help] [etc..]
    /cast spell

    is a great way to start, but my concern for this is the impact of when your Toon1 [ie your main] gets crowd controlled. I know for a fact that polymorph completely screws up the targeting of my alts when i use the focus main method, and I have to switch main's (via focus change) on the fly. Sap is less of a problem because I can still control the alts via the main's window when he's sapped. Sap doesn't seem to screw up the targeting like poly does. I've had mixed results with fear in PVE (and i swear in pvp but pvp is more chaotic so i'm not positive.) Sometimes after getting feared my alts won't attack what my main (using the focus method) has targeted until I retarget. It's really a PITA but it happens so rarely i'm not sure what the cause is, however it seems to happen after fear.
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  10. #20

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    is a great way to start, but my concern for this is the impact of when your Toon1 [ie your main] gets crowd controlled. I know for a fact that polymorph completely screws up the targeting of my alts when i use the focus main method, and I have to switch main's (via focus change) on the fly. Sap is less of a problem because I can still control the alts via the main's window when he's sapped. Sap doesn't seem to screw up the targeting like poly does. I've had mixed results with fear in PVE (and i swear in pvp but pvp is more chaotic so i'm not positive.) Sometimes after getting feared my alts won't attack what my main (using the focus method) has targeted until I retarget. It's really a PITA but it happens so rarely i'm not sure what the cause is, however it seems to happen after fear.
    Have you tried using sticky targeting? Atleast if not hooked on with me it used to change targets during poly and fears..
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