There is no SAFE from fear. But if you are THAT concerned about it..... go Undead and carry a trinket. Unless they leave tremor alone.Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=108914#p ost108914
There is no SAFE from fear. But if you are THAT concerned about it..... go Undead and carry a trinket. Unless they leave tremor alone.
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Fear is a magic debuff. Priests and paladin can dispell/cleanse fear off almost instantly. Paladin can use their bubble of immunity to even remove it off of themselves and cleanse others while he's still in his bubble. Priest have Mass Dispell that can dispell whole groups of feared players.
So is it confirmed that grounding and tremor won't stack either? Or just ToW? I'm looking at things from a pvp perspective
Well, my group can get out of it 3 timesThere is no SAFE from fear. But if you are THAT concerned about it..... go Undead and carry a trinket. Unless they leave tremor alone.
Fear ward on priests, dispel locks macro gets avoids first fear bomb
Will of the forsaken avoids second
Trinket avoids third
So TOW is now raid ride but doesn't stack, OK. So any other elemental shaman in a raid means their 41 pt TOW talent is now useless, or did I miss how bliz was going to fix that predicament?
As is moonkin aura, as is trueshot aura, as is sanctity aura... All talented abilities that work raid-wide in WoTLK but will not stack. A ele shammy can either use their 41 pt ToW to add additional RANGE to their totems if the raid is sperad out, or can provide Flametongue weapon totem to the raid to up everyone else's +dmg, or can add offensive fire totems to increase their DPS. Just because YOU are not laying ToW doesn't mean you don't get the effect -- if you're not laying ToW that means some other shaman already is -- and you still get the benefit of it.
I think they're making this the general rule:
If it works raid-wide (i.e. totems, auras) it does not stack.
If it's a party buff (i.e. ferocious inspiration), it will continue to stack
Having totems work raid-wide is a multiboxer nerf, and a raid buff. Now what percentage of the population raids vs multiboxes?
Furthermore, I can finally stop QQing when a turd in AV gets leader and doesn't put all of my shammies in the same group. Geez that's annoying not to have my perfectly aligned totem combinations.
TBC/Wrath Multiboxer: Velath / Velani / Velathi / Velatti / Velavi / Velarie [Archimonde (US-PvP)]
Without a doubt there are more raiders than multiboxers, but in my case and I'm sure there are others besides me (though we are miniority I'm sure) we multibox raids. I totally agree that you can't have it stacking across the whole raid... it would be incredibly OP. However, the benefit of one shaman out of 5 providing the buff for others still means that 4 of them are not providing any additonal benefit like they used to - the benefit of having an increased range is irrelevant when multiboxing since its highly unlikely they will be out of range from one another.
A) Not to mention does your post make absolutely no Logical sense, but Personal attacks make me chuckle, tis cute
B) The amount of F.U.D. in this thread is disgusting (Fear. Uncertanity, Doubt).
TOW will not stack. That will affect about 4% of the multiboxing community who actually uses this totem in endgame (the raiding shaman, or shaman who are levelign and trying to kill content thats 7 levels higher then them...). The ones it does affect are gimping their raid to begin with by stacking 4 ele shaman in the same group.
Tremor and Grounding are still stacking, they probably will stack, and nothign has even HINTED at them not stacking. So get over it, its not a concern as of right now.
And even if they will NOT stack (very unlikely), you are still playing -the- best multiboxing class.
Mail Armor
4-5 Heroisms
A way to break fear 5* per 2 min (trinket + tremor round robin)
Nature's swiftness + Elemental Mastery (No other class has a 100% chance to crit activatable ability.)
You can Fucking HEAL.
4 peice bonus on your pvp set is uber (50% pushback resistence wut?!)
So seriously, Stop QQ'ing over stupid shit. The amount of posts in the this forum with the ZOMG @#$@#$ and then 50 pages of responses to the theroretical change that COULD happen int he possible future is just retarded.
Technically you could still have multiple Shaman drop ToW even though they don't stack for the very reason you just mentioned, range. Let's just use a ten man for example. Group 1 and Group 2 both have a Shaman. Could you still use two ToW to cover a larger radius even if they don't stack? You still could overlap them to insure that the entire group can stay within range of a ToW right? So that being said it is not a complete nerf. Sure you can't stack them, but multiple shaman across the raid would help secure that regardless of location you would still be covered by ToW.
Pillage 80 Human DK, Kasini 71 NE Druid, Lato 71 BE Mage, Kawmisir 70 BE Pally, Akinta 65 NE Hunter, Raco 61 Dranei Shaman on Ravencrest Multibox Projects: 3 Elem Shaman / 2 Moonkin and group 2 is 4 Affliction Locks / 1 Holy Priest
Like Suvega just posted, really it is way too early to be sure what Blizzard is going to do. Also as Suvega said (and has been brought up many times this thread) even without ToW stacking, or hell even without totems period Shaman still would be the best of the best when it comes to boxing because of mail, shields, healing, self-rez, etc.
Pillage 80 Human DK, Kasini 71 NE Druid, Lato 71 BE Mage, Kawmisir 70 BE Pally, Akinta 65 NE Hunter, Raco 61 Dranei Shaman on Ravencrest Multibox Projects: 3 Elem Shaman / 2 Moonkin and group 2 is 4 Affliction Locks / 1 Holy Priest
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