Prot Pally, 3 Afflication Locks and a Holy Pally

[Mac]

I'd really pick a druid over a pally.

BC = pally
WOTLK = Druid.

I'm not sure I'm following your logic. All we have read around here for a while has been pali > druid because of consecrate gather up the mobs, ez mode multiboxing tankage. Your suggesting the opposite.

What are you seeing about druid tanks in wotlk makes them any better at this point?

[Revith]

This may also all be premature as there have been many blue posts lately stating how unfinished the tanking balance is, and due to the massive changes to paladins as a whole, prot pallies need more work than any other tanking class. I'd wait until they finish their tanking balance overhaul before passing any judgement on which class is best.

[mlwhitt]

I was kind of wondering the logic as well as everything I have heard (and experienced having both a 70 Druid and Pally) is that Pallies are easier to tank groups with, Feral has higher DPS but does far less AOE aggro.

According to what I have been reading people are saying that Druids are in a bit of a pickle come Waith. (See link). I didn't want to start anything but Mac is right, not sure I follow the logic Suvega.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...23729380&sid=1

[Suvega]

I'd really pick a druid over a pally.

BC = pally
WOTLK = Druid.

I'm not sure I'm following your logic. All we have read around here for a while has been pali > druid because of consecrate gather up the mobs, ez mode multiboxing tankage. Your suggesting the opposite.

What are you seeing about druid tanks in wotlk makes them any better at this point?

The other half of my post :P

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Remember, a seduce breaks for 2 seconds and it's ontop of a consecrate owning your paladin.

And YES it will OWN your paladin when you're wearing all blue quest gear in a WOTLK instance. You will NOT have badge gear to cover your ass

Pallies are uber for shaman rigth now, becuase you're wearing BT level tanking gear (ilvl 146?! badge gear), and tanking instances which were tuned for ilvl 115 blue gear. Of course it's easy to tank 5 mobs.

When wrath comes out, you'll be in blue quest gear, and mobs will OWN you if they were desgined to be CC'ed. You can't overgear an instance in WOTLK when it releases.
Therefore the ability to CC and tank 2/3 targets effectively without uber gear is valuable. Druids can do this vastly superior to pallies.

[Suvega]

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...23729380&sid=1[/url]

Read the blue response (see link)

Pallies will be good AOE tanks, however AOE tanking an instance in all blue gear means you can't CC anything, meaning they are going to be taking alot of dmg. (Take a pally in greens and try tanking an instance, or all blues with 0 badge gear and to a heroic.)

You want 3 locks to CC, well a pally tank would be EXTREMLY detrimental to that.
Druids can be played equally easily (with swipe), and will be a competent tank with CC.

EVeryone is saying about how great pallies are tanking in BC instances, because they are all wearing uber gear.
Try the same in the gear that was ment for the instance, and you'll see that tanking 6 mobs at the same time is BAD.


http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...43774&sid=2000

[Suvega]

In continuation,
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...00&pageNo=5#90

The trick is to let a Prot paladin still be useful in tanking large groups as on Morogrim or Hyjal without letting them trivialize the 5-player content that other tanks have to work at tanking

I.e. Expect CC to be needed, and not having a LOLeasy time at tanking instances with a prot pally in wrath.

[mlwhitt]

In continuation,
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...00&pageNo=5#90

The trick is to let a Prot paladin still be useful in tanking large groups as on Morogrim or Hyjal without letting them trivialize the 5-player content that other tanks have to work at tanking

I.e. Expect CC to be needed, and not having a LOLeasy time at tanking instances with a prot pally in wrath.

Okay, that blue posting makes what you are saying make more sense. So it looks like Blizzard is wanting to do away with EZ Mode tanking via AOE tanking everything because it limits the need for the other types of tanks.

[Revith]

So far I have seen zero cc as mandatory in the first 4 dungeons in WOTLK, but that's only up through the lvl 75 or so instances. I ran Drak'Tharon Keep (74-76 instance) last night with 2 DK's, 2 Pallies, and a shaman. We had a prot pally tank the first time through and a DK tank the second time through, and had no problem either time. But again, this isn't endgame stuff, and there's still a lot of testing to be done.

[Leyuna]

I personally hope that paladins still will be the AOE tank in WOTLK, and the main choice for heroics for their ability to run instances without CC. I think it would be sad if they lost that thing because it is what made the prot paladin in TBC.
There is no better feeling that going to an instance with 3 mage/warlocks and a healer, and someone ask what he/she should CC, and you reply "CC? whats that, never heard of a AOE spell called CC".

I hope that CC abilities would be more a choice insted of a most, because otherwise you will still be "forced" to take mage/other class's with no-CD-CC.
But we will see, nothing is settled, nothing is finite, we will see and then....we will be like the Borgs and adapt