Focusless, targetless, 'leaderless' (FTL) setup.

[algol]

I would just like to state for the record:

COMMAND FALLTHROUGH SUCKS!

Anyway...I think I got it working. Just had to unbind everything from Ctrl+key, Alt+key, and Shift+key. Because somehow CTRL+Shift+key maps to CTRL+key or whichever exists and make the macros die. O_o

[delafoo]

I've tried this a few times now to no avail.

I've set it up exactly as the OPs example shows for a 5 shammy team, Lightning Bolt bound to 2, with the hidden macro bound to I on all toons, with the macro provided on all toons (bound to I), and I get nothing when I hit 2 other than the lightning bolt only on the toon I'm casting with. My hostrings are exact as well. Suggestions? 4th time is a charm I suppose (tomorrow Night).

Thanks.

[Frosty]

I think I'm seeing a slight pattern here.

Make sure all the keys you are using as keymaps/hoststrings are unbound from the game.
If something in the game is using one of your keymaps, it's going to fail.

For example, if you use the method from the first page:

2 --> LBAT
Ctrl-alt-] --> LBBT
Alt-Shift-] --> LBCT
Ctrl-Alt-Shift-] --> LBDT
Ctrl-] --> LBET

make sure Ctrl-alt-], Alt-Shift-], Ctrl-Alt-Shift and Ctrl-] are all unbound. Do this for ALL keymaps. (note - do not unbind "2" as that is your activation key here)
The easiest way to unbind them is put them all on your action bar, then delete them from the action bar. (keybinds)

Then, also, make sure you haven't added these in some way to the Do-Not-Pass list.

[olipcs]

the /click actionbutton method works fine for /cast, but not for /follow. any idea why this would be? :?:

Yes, its because i think you bound an /assist to your macaroonbutton36 like:

/assist
[mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt]ToonA;
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift]ToonB;
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl]ToonC;
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift]ToonD;

and called follow with:

/click macaroonbutton36
 /follow
 /targetlasttarget

what this does is the command:

/assist
 [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt]ToonA;
 [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift]ToonB;
 [mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl]ToonC;
 [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift]ToonD
/follow
 /targetlasttarget

which trys to assist your Leader instead of simply target him. And thats why it doesn't work...

[olipcs]

I've tried this a few times now to no avail.

I've set it up exactly as the OPs example shows for a 5 shammy team, Lightning Bolt bound to 2, with the hidden macro bound to I on all toons, with the macro provided on all toons (bound to I), and I get nothing when I hit 2 other than the lightning bolt only on the toon I'm casting with. My hostrings are exact as well. Suggestions? 4th time is a charm I suppose (tomorrow Night).

Thanks.

As Frosty mentioned, I would also suggest to check if all combinations of your 'slave-key' are unbound and only the slave key itself is bound to the button with the macro.

To simply check if all get the response you might want to bind a simple '/say OK' to the slave-key on all toons, to see if the keybinding without any modifiers work... ..if this is the case, expand the '/say'-macro to the corresponding modifier-combination you used and try that for all diffrent leaders.
(For example use a macro which is build like this:

/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=ToonA][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=ToonB][mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=ToonC][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=ToonD][mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift,target=ToonE]
/say %t is leading

..with the modifier combination you used and your toons name)
If this works out and the toons change their Target corresponding to your 'active' window than you have done the hotstrings and keybinding correct and the problem must be in the macro you are using...

[olipcs]

..I updated the Wiki with a little Troubleshooting section, which I (or anybody who want to contribute) planning to expand a little more in the comming days...

[Minirogue]

ok how would some1 who so far know how to macro /follow /assist and /cast go about setting up this system on 2 characters
just minuse lines or will there b conflict

[olipcs]

No, simply you could only minus the lines of ToonC - ToonE lines.
If i we're you i would also change the modifier combination which identifies my toons, so to give a quick walkthroug:

1. Modifier Combination:
ALT + CTRL = ToonA
SHIFT + CTRL = ToonB

2. General keymaps:
ToonA:
'master-key' --> command.ToonA
SHIFT + CTRL + 'slave-key' --> command.ToonB

ToonB:
ALT + CTRL + 'slave-key' --> ToonA
'master-key' --> ToonB

3.Macros
- unbind all combinations of 'slave-key', an bind the simple 'slave-key' to a button
- bind macros like this to your button:

/assist [mod:alt,mod:ctrl,nomod:shift]ToonA;[nomod:alt,mod:ctrl,mod:shift]ToonB
/cast ...

or for follow

/target [mod:alt,mod:ctrl,nomod:shift,target=ToonA][nomod:alt,mod:ctrl,mod:shift,target=ToonB]
/follow
/targetlasttarget

4. enjoy

[Minirogue]

ok next stupid question from me
with this....

1. Modifier Combination:

ALT + CTRL = ToonA

SHIFT + CTRL = ToonB



2. General keymaps:

ToonA:

'master-key' --> command.ToonA

SHIFT + CTRL + 'slave-key' --> command.ToonB



ToonB:

ALT + CTRL + 'slave-key' --> ToonA

'master-key' --> ToonB

wat part of keyclone do i do all this
tryed to set them, in the keymap editor but wouldnt respond

[olipcs]

the second part, you do in keyclone in the keymap editor.

Say you want to setup '1' as your master key and 'u' as your slave key to cast a Lightning Bolt.
You would create the following keybinds:

For ToonA:
1 --> LB.A
SHIFT + CTRL + u --> LB.B

and save them in a seperate keymap (f.e. toona.kcl)

ToonB:
ALT + CTRL + u --> LB.A
1 --> LB.B

and save them in toonb.kcl

After creating the two keymaps, go in the command editor of keyclone and add in the commands you use to start up the different wows, the corresponding keymap of each toon to the corresponding command.

A quite good tutorial on keymapping (but not related to the ftl) from Araketh can be found here: What exactly are hotstrings for?