Focusless, targetless, 'leaderless' (FTL) setup.

[Trivarum]

Ok, I cut down on the number of clones for testing and I still can't get it to work.

My macro is:
/stopmacro [nomod]
/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=ToonA][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=ToonB]
/f
/targetlasttarget

That is bound to "1" on my keyboard.

My keymaps are
ToonA
1/tt1
LCTRL+LALT+1/tt2

ToonB
LCTRL+LSHIFT+1/tt1
1/tt2

I am honestly starting to feel retarded here, lol.

[Pocalypse]

Ok, I cut down on the number of clones for testing and I still can't get it to work.

My macro is:
/stopmacro [nomod]
/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=ToonA][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=ToonB]
/f
/targetlasttarget

That is bound to "1" on my keyboard.

My keymaps are
ToonA
1/tt1
LCTRL+LALT+1/tt2

ToonB
LCTRL+LSHIFT+1/tt1
1/tt2

I am honestly starting to feel retarded here, lol.

Check your keybindings to make sure nothing else is bound to ctrl+1, shift+1 or alt+1, since that would 'steal' the key press from your button.

[JRuss2k]

P and D you two are great. Thank you very much for this. I have worked with it over the last couple of days and I came up with a variant that I like a lot so I thought I would share.

What this does not do: Care about the Target. There is no targetlasttarget. It does still preserve focus
What this does do: Eliminates the need for an alternative keybinding thus cutting your keys in half.


Note, to demonstrate the versatility of this macro I can use the same button for both a heal and a harm spell


/tar [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,target=Alldrasha][mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Alldrashâ][mod:shift,target=Alldrashã][mod:ctrl,target=Alldrashä][mod:alt,target=Alldrashå]
/tar [mod,target=targettarget]
/cast [harm]Lightning Bolt;[heal]Healing Wave;Healing Wave

The first line, the order is important. You must use your double mods first. Otherwise it is a pretty standard target (which of course all the credit goes to D and P).
The second line states that if any mod was used then and only then switch to the target's target. This is key. Because it will save you a "hidden" keybinding.
The final line is execute line for whatever you want to do.

With this macro use can also use any modifier to assist a player in regular play.

Now your keybindings will use the exact same key for all toons. For example if Lightning Bolt and Healing Wave are going on Button 0 then your hotstrings will use button 0 for all chars (with the appropriate modifier).

So bottom line. if you want to give up the concern about slave targets you can cut the number of keybindings in half. And if you tend to macro your main spell anyway you can combine them into one macro thus reducing the number of macros you have to maintain.

Edit Additions. I had a small irritant with /follow macro. The lead would still try to follow so for follow use the following below your /tar line (first line)
/stopmacro [nomod]
/follow

So if you don't have a modifier (i.e., the brain) then you wont attempt to follow anyone. I suspect this would also work for the method Pocalypse described.

[Trivarum]

I finally got some variant working that will make all clones follow for each of my 4 chars, will post an edit after I try binding harmful spells.

[Pocalypse]

JRuss, the main reason we used hidden macros was to leave the modifiers of main buttons free to use for other abilities. So I could have 2 as Lightning Bolt and Shift+2 as Frost Shock, for example.

Other than that, yours is an excellent way of cutting down on macro usage.



Wilbur, hanks a lot for the sticky!! I'll start writing this up in the wiki just as soon as I get home and have some more free time on my hands.

[olipcs]

Hi,

The only problem I see with this is you need to hit your assist key every time you change a target. Other than that, its a great way of simplifying the method, would be nice not to have to set up new hotstrings for each ability.

Yes, I know, but honestly for my playstyle this is an advantage not a disadvantage.
I play an PVE-only setup (pala,mage,warlock,shaman,priest) where the "active"-toon is normaly my tank.

I never liked the macros the majority is using, where the assisting/focustargeting is bound into the specific spell-macros for wo reasons:
1. normaly you need a macro for every spell, with a seperate "targeting"-macro you cann simple drag a spell from the spellbook (ok, i admit, this is pure laziness)
2. (more importend) I like, that i must explicit specify when my toons have to change a target and they not allway targeting the target of my tank.
This way i could switch targets with my tank easily (for building aggro on seperate targets,dispelling,taunting or what ever..) while my dps-er stay on their target.

The way to use modifiers with the "FTL" system (love the name, I didn't notice that before ), is to treat them like a seperate button. So you'd make seperate hotstrings for them with a new hidden macro.

Ah, ok, sounds logical and doable. (but also a lot of keymaps/macros to set up)

[JRuss2k]

JRuss, the main reason we used hidden macros was to leave the modifiers of main buttons free to use for other abilities. So I could have 2 as Lightning Bolt and Shift+2 as Frost Shock, for example.

Agreed, it just goes to show the versatility of the system. Since I use a Nostromo the I never use mods which makes this method preferred. For keyboard users I can see where the use of mods comes in handy.

[Trivarum]

I managed to set up my binds, with each of my 4 chars only having 6 macros. My suggestion for anyone else trying this setup, is to use 2 spells per button, both a harm and noharm, you save (in my case, 50%) of your bar space. For example, I have a Chain Lightning/Chain Heal on 1 button, Lightning Bolt/Lesser Healing Wave, and Flame Shock/Healing Wave. It really has made life easier for me, not only switching from a focus-oriented setup, but also adding these to the ftl setup.

edit: not sure if modifiers can still be used with the way I have mine set up, i'm at work, but i'll check when I get back home and let you know.

[JRuss2k]

Trivarum,

I also used a harm and help/noharm to get two spells (see my example above). You should still be able to use a modifier with your method. In my example above, the modifiers can not be use but I only have a 1/4 of the buttons that others use.

However, if you use two spells you have to use them based on the same target unless you use the /target with a nomod so it doesnt switch to targettarget if there is not a mod. But that wont work with the normal method because they are reserving the mods for use.

[Neodon]

I wrote up an article about my multiboxing setup, including some details on how I got the focusless, targetless, leaderless setup to work.

You can read it here: http://whatisearchfor.blogspot.com/2...ing-setup.html