So who's going for deathknight main tank in WOTLK?

[magwo]

But D&D is not channeled, right?

[magwo]

Blizzard:

In any case, I have tried to say on a few occasions that the goal is NOT that a DK can be awesome at dps and tanking with any spec. The goal is that not every DK tank needs to use the same tree. To be a MT, a death knight will have to pick up tanking talents -- you probably need 16-20, and possibly even more.

[Draz]

But D&D is not channeled, right?

Correct, D&D is not channeled.

[puppychow]

When TBC first came out druids were the absolute best tanks due to high threat generation. Then a few weeks later Blizzard bug fixed them. People started noticing how crazy good Paladin tanks were, but not right away (Paladin tanks needed some gear, they couldn't just walk into Ramparts with the pre-TBC stuff).

The point is, its impossible to say now who will be the best for level 80 heroics, and we will not know until a few weeks/months after WOTLK is out. Maybe that 1 single 100 badge level 80 item will make one class way better. Maybe the right combo of talent and profession will make another better.

And as pointed out, the best for heroics is not necessarily the same as the best for multiboxers. We want something with high threat and little micromanagement - warriors can make awesome tanks, but they are far from ideal for multiboxers due to the micromanagement required.

Me personally, I have a 70 paladin, 70 warrior, leveling a druid, and then gonna level a DK when wotlk is out. That way, no matter who the best is, I'll be ready

[Drizzit]

Maybe that 1 single 100 badge level 80 item will make one class way better. Maybe the right combo of talent and profession will make another better.

My beat is on the priest.

Me personally, I have a 70 paladin, 70 warrior, leveling a druid, and then gonna level a DK when wotlk is out. That way, no matter who the best is, I'll be ready

You don't have a priest :P


All kidding aside you never know a lock might be a good tank too? With there morph ability. I can see this being key in a raid (like how you need a lock now to kill illian), but blizz already said that they will not make an instance where you have to have this class. Well i bet you can do illian without a lock, but it just makes it easier. I can see a 10 man where room is limited, but with a 25 man, chances are that you have every class in that mix.

[magwo]

When TBC first came out druids were the absolute best tanks due to high threat generation. Then a few weeks later Blizzard bug fixed them. People started noticing how crazy good Paladin tanks were, but not right away (Paladin tanks needed some gear, they couldn't just walk into Ramparts with the pre-TBC stuff).

The point is, its impossible to say now who will be the best for level 80 heroics, and we will not know until a few weeks/months after WOTLK is out. Maybe that 1 single 100 badge level 80 item will make one class way better. Maybe the right combo of talent and profession will make another better.

And as pointed out, the best for heroics is not necessarily the same as the best for multiboxers. We want something with high threat and little micromanagement - warriors can make awesome tanks, but they are far from ideal for multiboxers due to the micromanagement required.

Me personally, I have a 70 paladin, 70 warrior, leveling a druid, and then gonna level a DK when wotlk is out. That way, no matter who the best is, I'll be ready

Yes, but WOTLK is in beta.. and we can already draw tons of conclusions about general threat mechanics and aggro management with deathknights. They are not going to completely remake DK talent trees, so the current trees are well suited for contemplating how to best use your upcoming DK as a multiboxer.

[Drizzit]

Yes, but WOTLK is in beta.. and we can already draw tons of conclusions about general threat mechanics and aggro management with deathknights. They are not going to completely remake DK talent trees, so the current trees are well suited for contemplating how to best use your upcoming DK as a multiboxer.

Even if the tree doesn't get changed from beta to release, they will be changed the first month. Just hopefully non of the talents in the tree make a huge difference. Don't forget that the other classes had have some major changes sense the original release of WoW, would it be safe to say that only 50% or less of the original talents remain? Those classes are been around for some time now, and dk is new so the first couple of months you will see nerfs and buffs like crazy. I think it was when they introduced the new talent tree before BC came out. It seemed like every week i got a free respec.

[McBooty]

I'm pretty excited about the idea of a DK/4 Ele Shaman set.
When I rolled into TBC, I brought my shaman over instead of my warrior because I figured they were more self-sufficient (and I only had one Beta key). I got bored of playing my solo Resto shaman in Northrendville, so I switched to my horde shaman who was level 65ish. I had SO much fun running Ramparts and Blood Furnace with 4 DKs, day after day, and it was worth switching to resto for a while so I could keep Spirit Link on them.
But to answer what people are talking about, they have this mad crazy parallel of that stupid Consecration thing Pallies do: Desecration.
Granted, it's a 5-point talent, but once you see it activate (the ground cracks and turns blood red, and dozens of skeletal arms come out and start groping everything) you'll see it provides a great benefit for your tank and your team. It requires a little set-up and planning ahead. Combine with D&D's "High amount of threat" and the fact they can just Death Grip any stray aggro back to them without moving, and you've got something that's more likeable than a pawadin consakwayshun.
-Brandubh McBooty

[Jaws5]

MT DK frost

4 DK blood for dps and healing

its a plan don't how it will work

[Kulzor]

As I understand it so far, the Death Knight starting area is instanced somehow - meaning we might not be able to bring in a higher toon to powerlevel them.

So my current plan is to make four Death Knights (all dps to level with) on my four accounts, and run them as a team through that starting area. They ought to level pretty quickly.

Edit: As far as using one as my main tank - when the DK matches my Paladin, I'll then figure out which I like tanking better on. (E.g. Which is easiest to control mobs in instances with while multiboxing them.)