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  1. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'TheBigBB',index.php?page=Thread&postID=103657#pos t103657
    The really easy solution to all these problems, as has sort of been discussed already, is buying out 30k worth of nice expensive items that will most likely sell well and just listing them on the neutral auction house. Don't list them for 1 copper. Sell them for very low prices, but not trivially low. Have the account you want to give the money to buy them out and resell on their regular AH. There's absolutely no way that it's against the TOS to simply list items and buy them using accounts under the same name. What will get a ban possibly is listing linen cloth for 30k gold and having the other guy buy it out. You'll also be losing over 4000 gold this way, wheras you lose very little to list 10 mildly expensive items at like 10G each or something. In fact, if you do this correctly, it might be possible to come out of it with MORE THAN 30k gold, as you could strategically buy out only items which will sell higher on the other side.
    Yep, I did this pre-BC when I rerolled Alliance on a different server. I spent all 6k gold on relatively high-ticket items that had a decent resell value (cores, arcanite, enchanting mats, mooncloth, t1 BoE's) and transferred servers. Sold the items one at a time in the neutral AH for 1c, buying them out on the second account immediately. I transferred over 100 items and didn't get any of them sniped. If you only have one account you'd have to switch characters between each listing, which would be very dangerous (but if you have one account, why are you on these forums? ). Listing for 1c means you don't lose any money at all to the AH cut.

    When I finally sold everything, I actually came out ahead .

  2. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Drizzit',index.php?page=Thread&postID=103436#post 103436
    You should probably not put 1 gray up for 30k. Maybe put it up for like 50g, then something else for 50g and so on. It will take long but it should set a flag like 30k would.
    And look like you are trying to skate below the radar.

    Blizzard knows crossfaction trading happens, and that people use the AH to do so. If you transfer 30K from one account to the other and you properly own both, then the worst they can do is transfer the gold back after you appeal whatever action they are unlikely to perform on you.
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  3. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'zanthor',index.php?page=Thread&postID=103737#post 103737
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Drizzit',index.php?page=Thread&postID=103436#post 103436
    You should probably not put 1 gray up for 30k. Maybe put it up for like 50g, then something else for 50g and so on. It will take long but it should set a flag like 30k would.
    And look like you are trying to skate below the radar.

    Blizzard knows crossfaction trading happens, and that people use the AH to do so. If you transfer 30K from one account to the other and you properly own both, then the worst they can do is transfer the gold back after you appeal whatever action they are unlikely to perform on you.
    Here people going again KNOWING what blizzard will do. I wish I had precognition like some other people

  4. #34

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    i used to move gold andd item across the blackhand neutral AH for guilds / individuals wanting to x-faction trade never had any issues, I'd just do it as one lump sum and eat the goblin tax rather than try to parcel it out as items to try and re-list on the other side.

  5. #35

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    Wow, good timing on this thread. In a couple days I was planning on transferring 14k gold between horde and alliance on my accounts.

    It would be nice to hear a blue post on whether this is okay or not.
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  6. #36

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    Interesting. I saw some bread on the AH one time for 1000 gold. I figured it was gold spammers. I'm sure I was right. So I put my bread up on the AH for 1000 gold thinking "wouldn't it be funny if one of the gold farmers accidently bought mine?"

  7. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Draz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=103603#post103 603
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Mokoi',index.php?page=Thread&postID=103564#post10 3564
    I would also like to point out, that without official word on whether xfering gold across factions (which I am almost certain is against the ToS) speculating about how to circumvent a system Blizzard has implemented to deny access to a certain feature of the game, should not be discussed here. Vyndree's hammer is about to drop so all those giving advise on how to avoid blizzards AH scans for suspicious auctions should probably stop using this forum as a means to cheat the system.

    My advice: level your toons without 20 slot bags and overly expensive twink gear, and have fun getting that gold back on a new team =)
    Its not against the ToS, It never has been against the ToS, everyone crying wolf and saying it IS against the ToS is WRONG.

    Why would they have a neutral AH put in, in the first place? God forbid if people use it to you know....actually BUY stuff off the AH. If they didnt want people buying stuff off a neutral AH, why have THREE in the game in the first place.

    Now if your transferring gold in an effort to profit from gold selling, then YES that is against the TOS. But this is clearly not the case here, and everything that has been said so far is fine.

    My Advice: Please stop crying wolf, and fearing the wrath of the "V". Someone with some common sense can see this was not an attempt to exploit the system, or anything against the ToS, and just makes you look like a brown nosing little suck up.
    Except the wrath of "V" is always backed up by blue postings, logic and common sense. No one here who has said it's against the TOS has posted links to blue's that have said it's not acceptable. I do remember reading a blue posting that said it was fine but that if someone else bought a valuable item there was nothing a GM could do about it. It's pretty much at your own risk if you do it that way. Selling a grey item for a lot of gold might raise internal flags but if any action were taken I'm sure if your accounts were in order (meaning they were your accounts, name, etc.) then any action could be reversed. I don't have links but if you go search the customer service forums I bet you could all find postings about cross faction gold transfer using the neutral AH.

  8. #38

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    Found a post, by a blue: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread....geNo=1&sid=1#9

    Hi,

    Is it against the rules to transfer gold between alliance and horde on a PvE server using the neutral auction house? I've seen it done a lot, but want to be sure before I ask someone to help me do it in case it affects their account.

    Thanks.

    Hi Lienra,

    Aerrich has already linked a previous response to this question, which you can find at:

    http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread....915359&sid=1#3

    To reiterate - cross-faction trading like this is not considered to be exploitation, and players are free to do so if they do not mind incurring the costs associated.

    Issuntril
    and the linked post:
    There seems to be a lot of players asking this lately.

    What you speak of is perfectly legal Seijin, and we already have a development solution in place to discourage this kind of cross-faction trade, in that the cut for using the neutral AHs is quite a bit more than the regular ones.

    If you are happy incurring such costs while transferring your gold over, then you are of course free to do so.

    Issuntril
    So it's perfectly fine to do, and you don't even have to be the owner of both accounts.

  9. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'kadaan',index.php?page=Thread&postID=103773#post1 03773
    So it's perfectly fine to do, and you don't even have to be the owner of both accounts.
    Thanks kadaan, that comforts me. You guys got me riled up for a moment there
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  10. #40

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    I transfer Primals or other hot times from side to side.

    Check AH on each side if they are lower on one side buy them here , thansfer to other side sell for profit

    works great


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