Ramparts? Do I just suck 5 boxing?

[BGuru]

Well here I am again stuck trying to do another instance, this time it is Ramparts.
I'm starting to get the feeling I just suck 5 boxing maybe I just suck at WoW altogether and the people I was raiding with when I was playing solo were making me look good.

Sunday I got to level 58 and went to Ramparts immediately and got owned, no biggie I knew I needed gear. By Sunday night I was 60 had some Outlands gear and went back to Ramparts got through 1 or 2 trash pulls and couldn't get past the guys that do rain of fire. Tonight I tried for hours and still couldn't make it to the first boss.

I pull with Avengers shield then use SoR judge it then SoR again then consecrate. I have holy shield up righteous fury and ret aura. I either have to heal with my shammies and 1 pulls agro or I get agro from dpsing I use righteous defense but the mob turns back to the shammy almost immediately and it all goes down hill from there.

Anybody have any tips? I'm pulling my hair out here.

Here are the Armory links of my group: Pally, Shaman, Shaman, Shaman, Shaman.

Thanks for any help you can give.

[Naysayer]

You are putting blessing of salvation on your shaman, right?

Also, your spell damage is pretty low on your shaman, and your pally is geared horribly. Do some more questing in HFP and get the rewards that are meant for you to be on par with a preBC 60. You should be gearing your pally for defense and avoidance now. Shaman should have much more spell damage. You're not supposed to have some outlands gear. You're supposed to have full outlands gear. If you can't quest for some pieces, shop the AH for cheap buys.

[BGuru]

I've been using wisdom. I'll try salvation next time. Going to try and do a couple more quests for gear before going back to Ramparts dying so much and not improving is getting depressing.

edit: HMM I've been gearing my pally for +magic damage no wonder he dies so fast.

[Naysayer]

I've been using wisdom. I'll try salvation next time. Going to try and do a couple more quests for gear before going back to Ramparts dying so much and not improving is getting depressing.

Your gear is bad. Fix it and it will be easymode and fun.

The only +magic damage item your pally should have at all is his weapon. Everything else should be Defense, stamina, and avoidance stats.

[Meathead]

Yea get alot more damage gear for your shammys cause my lvl 54 has 140 spell damage as they said gear is everything

[Kissell13]

Can anyone post a recommened number of +spell dmg before heading there. I am in the same situation. I have a bunch of old lvl 40 gear ive been running around in. I just hit outlands and have begun to quest for upgrades. Id like to have an idea of about when ill be rdy to try Ramps.

[Tizer]

You should be able to get around 350 with the greens/blues from half of the HFP quests alone. iirc.

[Dominian]

The spelldamage trinket alone is 28 critt rating? and 120 spelldamage when used =)

[Havelcek]

A little sidenote, but for those AoE mobs like that its helpful to bind CTRL-movement keys so you can shift your whole crew a bit seamlessly. So if you move with WASD, then add CTRL-WASD to pass to your alts to have them move as well.

[tzibo]

I never bother trying to tank the casters. I just set my shaman to target them first, and while the captain america shield is flying through the air they begin dpsing them. I tend to kill the casters first while my pala is tanking the others, gives me more time to build up a nice threat cushion for nuking.

Only issue I had with Ramparts was remembering to do everything when playing with the last boss. Once that was figured (and I was level 62 which helped), it was fine. BF was child's play in comparison.