great post - thanks for spelling it out, I definately need to make some changes lol. I'll study this tonight during maintenance and plan it out. I'm going to stick with fire mages for a while to see how they go plus I just got one mage up to 375 spellfire tailoring so it would be a waste to change now. I might respec the other mage to frost - my first 70 was a frost mage - love em. In the castsequence I have now I threw in a drain soul on arcane missiles just when I'm doing SSO dailies so I can keep my shards up and it's better for the locks mana conservation - in instances of course I'd swap that for drain life. Oh and thanks for reminding me about CoE >.<