Thinking of 25 boxing WoW - Not sure about a lot of things

[Sam DeathWalker]

As you know I am the 24 boxer From EQ. As I already have all the equipment in place I am thinking of 25 boxing WoW but I know nothing about the game. I do know that there are 62 WoW players for every 1 EQ1 players and it seems it might be time for me to go where the majority is.

I think my machines can take 5 instances of WoW each, as they work on 4 instances of EQ NP. If I have to upgrade Ill do so.

The way I work in EQ is I have 6 monitors and 6 computers and flip through each group starting an in game macro or social. I can go through all 4 groups in under 2 seconds.

Not sure if that will work in WoW, but it should.

I am thinking of all mages (and 1 priest for rez/heal/tank?). And the Undead Mage seems the way to go, with the anti-fear thing.

Im not sure how sheep work in pvp, surely you cannot just sheep all your oppenents and kill them one by one.

what I see in november this spell (available at level 60) should be my goal:

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=44781

Instantcast, 30 yards, 3 second recast

The thing is though if I roll 25 account (I have no concerns about money lol), I plan to ALWAYS play all 25. From what I see, based upon my limited knowledge, I won't be doing any 2X2 or 3X3 or 5X5 things, all dungons are also just 5 max, is that true? Also I don't is it even possible to level past 60 without doing quests that cannot accomodate 25 characters at the same time? Also only 1 of the 4 battlegrounds will allow more then 15 ...

I see also in november a new pvp zone, possibly this would be best for me running 25 at one time:

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?zone=4197

Is it possible to "world pvp" (Im going horde on a pvp server but the one that has the most allience/horde ratio) and get decent gear?

Does any of this plan seem logical?

Anyway I mainly am wondering what difficulties (or impossibilities) I will face if I play all 25 all the time.

[Apollo127]

In my opinion 25 characters wouldn't be good in wow at all since most dungeons are 5 mans. And you would have to do a raid to hold all 25 chars, which I think kills xp, not counting the fact of the 25 characters splitting XP. I would just go with 5-10 characters like most of the high rollers on here do

[Stormweasel]

OK from my POV first of all /awe

I hope you pull this off - it would be insane.

Anyway I mainly am wondering what difficulties (or impossibilities) I will face if I play all 25 all the time

Well I think first of all, the pre-25 gearing will be insane. Unless Im missing something obvious, theres an exponential amount of time involved as you increase the number of 5 man groups. To gear them up as a whole I mean.

In order to gear up before raiding you are going to have to gear them up in 5 mans. Unless you do one group of 5 at a time this is obviously going to involve running not just one dungeon instance with all the micro-managing of 5 but five different instances of 5 man management.

If you took the other route of gearing 5 men at a time this is obviously going to take a phenomonal amount of time. I mean, see you in the next expansion

I mean, shit, good luck, I claim to be no expert on this but if you pull it off, you can be the godfather to my children

Its possible Ive missed something obvious but Ill leave that to the experts

EDIT - if Ive read your post correctly, you would like to box the 25 man content

[Bradster]

OK from my POV first of all /awe

I hope you pull this off - it would be insane.

Anyway I mainly am wondering what difficulties (or impossibilities) I will face if I play all 25 all the time

Well I think first of all, the pre-25 gearing will be insane. Unless Im missing something obvious, theres an exponential amount of time involved as you increase the number of 5 man groups. To gear them up as a whole I mean.

In order to gear up before raiding you are going to have to gear them up in 5 mans. Unless you do one group of 5 at a time this is obviously going to involve running not just one dungeon instance with all the micro-managing of 5 but five different instances of 5 man management.

If you took the other route of gearing 5 men at a time this is obviously going to take a phenomonal amount of time. I mean, see you in the next expansion

I mean, shit, good luck, I claim to be no expert on this but if you pull it off, you can be the godfather to my children

Its possible Ive missed something obvious but Ill leave that to the experts

EDIT - if Ive read your post correctly, you would like to box the 25 man content

There perhaps is another way, maybe this would work. Maybe not with out the regen and the tank gear from PVE. But what if he PVPed for all the gear? That would be faster.

[Sam DeathWalker]

In EQ I did do tradeskills very heavy and most of my stuffs is trade skilled. I would assume that although its mind numbing boring that tradeskills (I mean I would only need one tailor at the highest level) could provide me with most my gear. Also during pve for the most part I am hoping to just intantly kill mobs with mages, so gear, for defensive purposes really isnt all that needed. I mean my guys are going to die if hit, even with decent gear mages are going down fast. I have to play so that they dont get hit ... Offensively its all about getting levels and spells asap. This kind of group is just not as gear dependant as say mellee or others.

Another question on a pvp server, if all my guys are horde will I be able to use aoe spells without hitting my own guys, if all 25 are within 10 feet of each other and do a pbaoe (aoe spell that hits npc's around them) will it also hit non group members? I havn't been able to pbaoe in EQ cause of that.

[Quarto]

Big difference in levelling between EQ and WoW is grinding. EQ mob grinding was good, fast xp. Grinding mobs out in WoW is pretty slow. Quests or boosting toons is where the fast xp is. I couldnt imagine grinding out mobs for xp with more than 10 toons, and would probably suck trying to get all the quests synchronized in a group bigger than 10.

[Aerilux]

Another question on a pvp server, if all my guys are horde will I be able to use aoe spells without hitting my own guys, if all 25 are within 10 feet of each other and do a pbaoe (aoe spell that hits npc's around them) will it also hit non group members? I havn't been able to pbaoe in EQ cause of that.

Your aoe spells shouldn't hit you unless specifically stated (warlock's hellfire) So with 25 mages all using say... Arcane Explosion all at once, pretty much anything would go down.

Im not sure how sheep work in pvp, surely you cannot just sheep all your oppenents and kill them one by one.

Any damage will reverse the sheep effect. So the person will be in sheep form either until the timer runs down or he gets damage done to him (or he uses an anti-sheep skill)


hope this helps

[daviddoran]

Given the time it takes to level, and that it's not practical to level in groups higher than 5, and also since it's your first time playing, I would start with just 5 (never thought I'd say JUST 5 lol) and learn from there. Once you have 5, you can then get 5 more accts, and repeat, and keep doing so until you have your 25. Or you could just use the same accts and transfer off later depending on how fast you level. Then you don't have to worry about monthly costs for so many accounts all at once. I honestly think it will be boring with all the same type of character. I'd make one "holy trinity" group, with a paladin priest and 3x mages for your first group, then make 5x shaman, 5x locks, 5x druids 5x mages. Or 5x of whatever dps you want, with at least one of em a hybrid team so you can off heal/offtank. Or I guess you could make em almost all shaman, with a team of utility toons (mage for water and portals, lock for summons and ss, druid for buff/offtank priest for mana/health return.

[Tasty]

All I can say is 25 Shaman w/ totems down = epic lawl

And you'd get reported the second you did anything. haha

Reason enough to 25box right there

[Sam DeathWalker]

It seems that pbaoe will be a viable way to level up. I need one priest for rez, even if healing by group is not going to be all that. 24Mage 1priest can pbaoe mobs by the ton. Kill 50 mobs someone going to get exp ... You can level off of mobs after 60 I am assuming.

Sheep looks like a joke for pvp. Maybe shaman have some real advantages but I want to keep everything super simple. And nothing is simpler then just playing a class that does nothing but nuke. And that new nuke seems very powerful.