Quote Originally Posted by 'shaeman',index.php?page=Thread&postID=98707#post9 8707
I've not had a great deal of luck with guilds (either pve or pvp).

They invariably seem to be full of inactives (With next to no one on). heck my own guild has been slowly dying off over a period of months, to the point where I only keep it going so me and my kids have a massive shared bank facility.

I have hestiated about running in premades. My experience of them has been on the receiving end only which with a mixed team was generally a complete whitewash. Unfortunately when I did encounter a premade I've seen them do 2 quick flag caps, then sit either at the bottom of the graveyard with the third flag (which at least shows some honour) or graveyard camping. Personally If the battle was overwhelmingly one sided like that I wouldn't be getting any enjoyment from it even if i was on the winning team.

Does anyone have experience in premades - what sort of percentages of your battles turn out to be premade vs premade?

I guess I should try it and see myself - as battlegroups may vary widely.

Thanks for the suggestion.
Well, ever since group queuing for AV was implemented Blizzard also added a system that really does a good job of matching premade vs premade. It's not very popular among premade mostly because the majority of premades were looking for that easy win and not really interested in facing other premades. So, the people looking for easy wins just stopped creating premades because they weren't easy wins anymore and lots of the legit premades looking for good fights have to sit in queue for quite a bit now while the system tries to match them against another premade, but if the wait begins to get too long it will just throw them against a pug with a small amount of pregrouped characters (think dualboxers and friends who group). This is bad news for those "easy win" guys, but great news for people who are actually looking for a premade vs premade, which I've seen every so often posted by twink guilds in the battlegroup forums. Get about 3-4 twink guilds queuing as premades, post the epic battles on the forums, more twink guilds arise or join current teams for more premade teams and that's a pretty sweet deal. The system is there now, and I'm sure there are a few leugues already going. Maybe I'll go look in the forums and see if I can find a decent example.