Multiboxing and twinking - How much prejudice will I encounter.

[merujo]

I think that, if u have a goal, u should reach it :P Wanna twink 3 hunters lvl19? go for it!

It's funny, yesterday while doing some arenas a twink rogue came near me, and when i saw the whisper commin, i almost had it already in my head:"u suck dude, blablabla!"
But no! the guy asked me if i was interested in twinking some chars and multibox them lol :P "why dont u make a multibox twink team? And join my guild!"
lol, i kinda laughed for a while, thinking bout 5 gnome walocks or 5 hunters..but... i already got so much in mind, and so little time to play

[shaeman]

I want my character to be the best it can be - does it matter if it's 70 or 19. (I've got enough 70's).

Do I want to own in battlegrounds. Damn right. And I do well no matter where I choose to do battle - 70 bg's, or 19 bg's.

I see a great deal of irony about getting all the gear and enchants at level 70 - when people are losing arenas 10 a week to get gear to make themselves tougher, or running bg after bg farming honour - why? to get better gear so they can be uber. SAme difference different bracket.

Do those who have 5 boxer pvp teams not want to win and kill alliance? Do they not get hate because others dont like what they do.

I'm actually playing the bg's for fun - radical I know. Instead of gearing up for marks and honour. Perhaps I will grow bored of my little WSG twink group. Then I'll leave them and do some levelling. This is the beauty of wow and multiboxing. Choices. You don't just have to have one view.

Unfair advantage : response - you can multibox too.

Unfair advantage : response - you can twink too.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

How much hate you get as a boxer has nothing to do with twink or non-twink. It is directly proportional to the amount of people you kill.

[Naysayer]

I want my character to be the best it can be - does it matter if it's 70 or 19. (I've got enough 70's).

Do I want to own in battlegrounds. Damn right. And I do well no matter where I choose to do battle - 70 bg's, or 19 bg's.

I see a great deal of irony about getting all the gear and enchants at level 70 - when people are losing arenas 10 a week to get gear to make themselves tougher, or running bg after bg farming honour - why? to get better gear so they can be uber. SAme difference different bracket.

Do those who have 5 boxer pvp teams not want to win and kill alliance? Do they not get hate because others dont like what they do.

I'm actually playing the bg's for fun - radical I know. Instead of gearing up for marks and honour. Perhaps I will grow bored of my little WSG twink group. Then I'll leave them and do some levelling. This is the beauty of wow and multiboxing. Choices. You don't just have to have one view.

Unfair advantage : response - you can multibox too.

Unfair advantage : response - you can twink too.

You're targeting new players.

If you want your character to be the best it can be, then why aren't you obtaining the best possible spells and talents for him? You purposely stop at a low level bracket to hold a gear advantage over players who generally have no idea or means to counter you. Picking on newbs. If gear wasn't the issue, you'd level to 70 to compete or not bother with the level 70 enchants/kits.

Here is some more of your apples and oranges.

"Unfair advantage : response - you can multibox too. "
The unfair advantage is just a matter of one side having more than the other. A group of 6-10 people have an advantage over a 5boxer... In BG's no side has more players than the other.

"Unfair advantage : response - you can twink too."
Yes, I do. At level 70. I don't care for picking on new players at level 19 who just bought the game not too long ago, and there aren't enough skills and abilities at level 19 to hold my interest. You need more skill and coordination to play a game of checkers than you do playing the 19 bracket. What is it, like two or three buttons? If that's your game, so be it. I'm still going to think you're a guy who needs to pick on the children at the kiddie table so to speak when it comes to pvp. The only proper twinks do it at 70.

[Vyndree]

IMO, you will get MORE QQ from twinks.

Why do people make a twink? To easily wtfpwn people with lesser gear.
Why would twinks have a problem with multiboxers? Because often, even if they're NOT twinked, they will wtfpwn the single twink.
Why would they QQ about that? Because they dumped alot of $$$ to ensure that they get insta-wins against other folks. Twinking is first about $$$. Twinking has little to do with skill unless you face an equivalently geared twink.

So twinks will QQ because you are "ruining their fun". In essence, you are ruining their insta-win that they "paid" for by gearing out their twink. They will not like you. They will not welcome you unless you are on their side -- and even so, they may hate you because you're ruining their HK epeen stroking streak.

There have been QQ posts on the Stormstrike battlegroup about multiboxers in the twink brackets. Were the multiboxers twinked? I don't know. But the twinks were up in arms about how "unfair" multiboxing is compared to twinking, which is "honorable" since you "roll a twink to fight other twinks".... Yeah... right...

[shaeman]

So - If i multibox my hunters but don't twink them will that make me a better person? Will that meet with your approval.

If i say I'll pvp for a while and will level these guys up at a later date will that be better?

Will it stop me from being a nasty person who picks on poor little children who don't know how to play their class? I mean obviously everyone who is in BG's with a 10-19 character has never, ever, ever played another character and are all poor little children who don't know what they are doing?

Should I run into the battleground, find all the 10-18 characters and let them kill me so they can feel better about themselves.

If i own all the twinks without making my hunters twinks themselves will that be okay? Will I suddenly be a beacon of light, shining brightly amongst all those nasty, emotionally stunted people called twinks (I mean let's not consider that there are individuals involved here - that there might actually be any number of reasons why they want to twink).

I am slightly confused though - if my 3 hunters kill 10-18 characters that don't have brilliant gear will that make me bad again?

Is it just the gearing out at max bracket level and putting enchants on that will suddenly turn me from an honourable multiboxer into a big sad bully? Is it okay to just get the best gear but not put enchants on?

As usual with prejudice it relies on grouping lots of people together and assuming they are all the same - and inferior to yourself.

I can't blame you though - it was until recently pretty much the attitude I had towards twinks. It took watching my children twink up and watching the epic battles they had to realise there was more to level 19 bg's - that there is actually a large amount of skill involved in fighting an equally geared twink, and a joy in taking down better geared twinks. And for your information my children are two of the sweetest most caring kids you would ever have the privilege of meeting (probably doesn't conform to your blinkered view of twinks but never let the facts get in the way).

Still I have my answer - I will encounter prejudice, I will encounter people that don't care, and I will encounter people that will approve.

Ultimately the only opinion that matters is my own - as that is based on actual experience.

Thanks all.

[merujo]

So - If i multibox my hunters but don't twink them will that make me a better person? Will that meet with your approval.

well, i kinda think thats not the issue here.
If u multibox lvl19 chars and twink them, u'll be harassed by twinks, not by us. Ur always approved here :P

[shaeman]

Thanks Merujo.

I think I took the anti twink hatred personally. I respect vyndree and naysayer a lot from their posts on the forum (don't alway agree with their opinions on all things) but I guess when you get a bit of flak from folks you respect it gets to you more.

Suffice it to say fighting in the 19 bgs has it's challenges and fun that don't involve getting enjoyment from killing newbs. I've had epic battles. I've had epic tussles 1 vs 1.

I'll roll my hunters - will twink them out to a degree and then see how it goes in the bg's. I suspect as another poster said I will find it becomes boring. (If indeed it is that easy to cut through the opposition then what's the point, and where's the challenge). I know that when I stopped in the 19 bg bracket on my hunter I didn't have to twink out to take twink rogues out (and that was before I even knew how to kite properly). 3 hunters may make it a bit too much like easy mode.

I'll see if i can work out fraps and video uploading and put it on this site for those that want to see it.

[Naysayer]

Thanks Merujo.

I think I took the anti twink hatred personally. I respect vyndree and naysayer a lot from their posts on the forum (don't alway agree with their opinions on all things) but I guess when you get a bit of flak from folks you respect it gets to you more.

Suffice it to say fighting in the 19 bgs has it's challenges and fun that don't involve getting enjoyment from killing newbs. I've had epic battles. I've had epic tussles 1 vs 1.

I'll roll my hunters - will twink them out to a degree and then see how it goes in the bg's. I suspect as another poster said I will find it becomes boring. (If indeed it is that easy to cut through the opposition then what's the point, and where's the challenge). I know that when I stopped in the 19 bg bracket on my hunter I didn't have to twink out to take twink rogues out (and that was before I even knew how to kite properly). 3 hunters may make it a bit too much like easy mode.

I'll see if i can work out fraps and video uploading and put it on this site for those that want to see it.

I'd suggest making a twink guild, recruit on your server, and queuing as a premade. Post on your battlegroup forums and find other twink guilds to queue up against and at what times they commonly play. There are a few twink communities just like the boxing community, and they do have premade vs premade quite often, which even those who are passionately against twinks can agree is respectful and actually kinda cool. It's a much different aspect than just the average joe twink queuing to poon pug noobz. Hell, start your own league in your battlegroup if there isn't one. If you build it, they will come.

[shaeman]

I've not had a great deal of luck with guilds (either pve or pvp).

They invariably seem to be full of inactives (With next to no one on). heck my own guild has been slowly dying off over a period of months, to the point where I only keep it going so me and my kids have a massive shared bank facility.

I have hestiated about running in premades. My experience of them has been on the receiving end only which with a mixed team was generally a complete whitewash. Unfortunately when I did encounter a premade I've seen them do 2 quick flag caps, then sit either at the bottom of the graveyard with the third flag (which at least shows some honour) or graveyard camping. Personally If the battle was overwhelmingly one sided like that I wouldn't be getting any enjoyment from it even if i was on the winning team.

Does anyone have experience in premades - what sort of percentages of your battles turn out to be premade vs premade?

I guess I should try it and see myself - as battlegroups may vary widely.

Thanks for the suggestion.