[Keyclone] how to not get wiped when your main dies...

[keyclone]

(i recently sent this in a email... and figured others would like to see it...)

you should also try to remove the concept of your 'main' from your head. there is no main... just the currently active one and your alts. don't get mentally tied to any one character (unless its a tank)... when the active dies, you will need to be able to switch over as fast as possible to continue the fight, or they are all dead.

this is where pip comes in. you have 2 things to set up. one in keyclone and the other in wow. in keyclone, set your pip hotkeys for each region (i'll assume f8-f12 for discussion... just never use shift/alt/ctrl with these keys.. in the heat of battle, fumbling a key is very likely). then, in wow, set up 5 macros in each wow (25 total)... they would set your focus and follow.
ie:
/focus joe
/follow focus

that would be a single macro, and you would have it on ALL your wows... and you would associate it with f8, being your first wow.
next:
/focus sam
/follow focus

sam is your 2nd wow... and set that to f9. repeat for all your wows... for a total of 25 macros on the exact same 5 keys as your pip swap.

if you do it right... and joe is in the main region... and gets killed... you hit f9 and joe will swap with sam.. and all your remaining alts will now be focused on sam and following him. this allows you to click on a new target with sam and fire.. with your alts following his direction.

i hope that makes sense. if not, just drop me a note.

[Overflo]

Gotta say i appreciate this post, i don't die much but when my main screen dies it definetly becomes a bitch as i'm still learning a ton, even your macro suggestions(which seem so obvious to me now) will immensly help me out when it comes, to targeting mobs and such as that was my biggest issue when my main would die, would be my targetting system would be messed right up, now i will just reprogram all my macros to assist focus in combination with your focus/follow macro's and I should be fine thanks for the post again.

[defactoman]

Here is how i set it up with the PiP using keyclone with my 4 shammies. (G1-G4 refers to G15 shortcut keys)
For this example I have toon1 through toon4. Toon1 is my main. I could probably get creative here and have it automatically follow and assist when performing the switch.

I'm providing two examples, but i repeat this for all 4 toons following the pattern.

KEY BOUND = G1:
Switches PiP zone to my main character
Executes the following macros:
[Toon1]
/p SWITCHING FOCUS-> TOON1
/cleafocus

[Toon2] to [Toon4]
/focus Toon1

KEY BOUND = G2:
Switches PiP zone to my second character
Executes the following macros:
[Toon2]
/p SWITCHING FOCUS-> TOON2
/clearfocus

[Toon1] [Toon3] [Toon4]
/focus toon2

For my combat macros I use the following on every account (toon1 through toon4):
If the toon casting has a focus (which it only will when its NOT the master) it will assist the master and cast. If the toon casting IS the master, then it won't have a focus and just cast at your target. We provide a script command to supress any errors we might encounter (such as no focus). You can use this for any assisted combat attack.

/cast [target=focustarget, exists] Lightning Bolt;Lightning Bolt
/assist Focus
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

/cast [target=focustarget, exists] Earth Shock;Earth Shock
/assist Focus
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

Finally, I use this last macro for initiating a follow on the main. I spam this regularly and also attempts to assist my main which never hurts.

/follow focus
/assist [target=focus, nodead, exists]
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

[pinotnoir]

Well I am max on my macros in wow so I cant make a focus for each toon. What I have is 1 macro to focus with modifiers.. So F9 does one guy, alt F9 another, Shift f9 another Ctrl F9 another ect.. I tried to do PIP but it doesnt like modifiers. Until they give us more macro room in wow I prob wont ever get to enjoy PIP.

[Tidomann]

i'm currently using PiP along with modifiers.. Haven't run into many problems yet.

[Ellette]

/clearfocus
/focus [target=main, exists, nodead][target=slave1, exists, nodead][target=slave2, exists, nodead][target=slave3, exists, nodead]
/follow focus

Basically this is my setup (I added an extra slave3 for 5boxers). Since I 3box I have a shortened version of this, but basically when I hit this on my slaves it focuses my main on their screens and follows her. If she dies I hit the button again and it moves to the next slave that's alive, and if she's dead then moves to the next one until there is one left (which is why there isn't one for slave4 since she would have no need to follow anyone if I 5boxed :P). Simple, fits into one macro per alt, and I think it does the trick quite nicely.

Please, correct me if I misunderstood your post, but I think this simplifies what you were trying to do? *hopeful*

[keyclone]

Heya Ellette,

that is similar to what i was showing... normally, i try to lay out very simple macros as to reduce confusion in its function.

i think we should try to petition blizzard for more macro spots... and maybe a better key-macro mapping capability (like the macro name.. next to the key.. similar to the key bindings)

(and yes... i had considered doing this within keyclone.. but it was suggested that i stay clear of it as it's in the 'gray' area)

[Jaese]

You get more General macros in the XP.

Character macros stay the same.

[Vyndree]

I use a G11 myself. Just don't use the macro keys to do anything a normal wow macro could not do in a single press. Think of them as extra storage for normal macros, and you're fine.

Malkorix is talking about using the Logitech G15 as "extra storage for normal macros". Sounds fair game to me.


As an alternative, the bar mod "TrinityBars" allows for the storage of additional in-game macros as well as increased length on macros.

[Naysayer]

(i recently sent this in a email... and figured others would like to see it...)

you should also try to remove the concept of your 'main' from your head. there is no main... just the currently active one and your alts. don't get mentally tied to any one character (unless its a tank)... when the active dies, you will need to be able to switch over as fast as possible to continue the fight, or they are all dead.

this is where pip comes in. you have 2 things to set up. one in keyclone and the other in wow. in keyclone, set your pip hotkeys for each region (i'll assume f8-f12 for discussion... just never use shift/alt/ctrl with these keys.. in the heat of battle, fumbling a key is very likely). then, in wow, set up 5 macros in each wow (25 total)... they would set your focus and follow.
ie:
/focus joe
/follow focus

that would be a single macro, and you would have it on ALL your wows... and you would associate it with f8, being your first wow.
next:
/focus sam
/follow focus

sam is your 2nd wow... and set that to f9. repeat for all your wows... for a total of 25 macros on the exact same 5 keys as your pip swap.

if you do it right... and joe is in the main region... and gets killed... you hit f9 and joe will swap with sam.. and all your remaining alts will now be focused on sam and following him. this allows you to click on a new target with sam and fire.. with your alts following his direction.

i hope that makes sense. if not, just drop me a note.

I planned to do this on my warlocks so I could rotate through shadowfuryx5 easily, but I'm having trouble with PiP. Sometimes I'll hit the hotkey to rotate to the next guy (main numb 0, alt1 numbperiod, alt2 numb1, ect) and sometimes it just won't switch. feels like it locks onto the main and won't go from main to alt1, but it can be fixed by trying alt3's hotkey and then going back to alt2. Just seems to lock up once and a while and won't let you switch unless you try a third option. I haven't bothered trying to figure out what is going on at the moment, but it's something I planned to look into when I close in on 70. Have any suggestions?