Why go horde?

[Mac]

I've played Alliance for a long time, I recently rolled a Horde Shaman team, and I'm having a lot of fun with it. However, I really see no difference between chat and other player behavior so far between the two factions, sorry to all you hard core Horde people who feel different, but I really don't see the difference. You could look at trade chat with both factions on different servers and see all the same crap. I haven't raided as Horde, but I was doing T5 on my ali and my guild that I raided with was mostly older adults who where old enough to have kids that also played, to give you an age estimate. So, I don't really see that faction automatically equals maturity at this point. Just go with what you like the looks of and the overall theme that appeals to you most. Some people are just Hard Core whatever and will be fanatical one way or another anyway.

As for the project , well sounds interesting, would be kinda cool to see, so good luck with it, like others have said, pvp wise? meh. pve wise, be cool to see what you could eventually raid with that group, but again, /shrug when its all said and done.

Having said that, I was thinking about my old RCE game reading this thread and thinking about the numbers. 5k a year is nothing for this other game. You can't really multibox it from what I have seen, but if you just have a lot of money and want to pwn, and then have something worth selling when you are done, you might want to go check it out. People with deep pockets often go there and invest heavily and own everyone in world pvp and are really hard to kill because they bought best weapons and armor, plus they make money off their investments, and eventually sell out or just hold on to their stuff and have someone else deal with it for them. So if you have that kind of cash, you might want to check it out. I played for a couple years and got burnt out and sold all my investments over there about a year ago, I go back and visit friends and pew pew some for fun, but you might want to investigate it if you haven't already. www.entropiauniverse.com

[McBooty]

Sam's crazy as duck, and as a multiboxer I instantly like his eccentric passion about what we do.

He's done it before in EverQuest©!, but that boat's sunk so I'm happy to hear he's trying WoW. The only reason I'm playing stinkin WoW is because I was on my 3 masterminds in City of Villains and someone said, "Keyclone FTW". Googling led me to Veronikå's videos and I was like "That's exactly what I've been doing all these years, MANUALLY!"

But I don't see how someone can be all pissy at Sam for wanting to try this. I don't see how someone can start doing monthly fee calculations when that's the crap we hear from the haters. As for doing it for attention, do you really think he's going to enjoy getting tells in 26 windows? I hate getting them in one window.

Tha's enough o' that. I want to talk about the initial topical responses to this thread. The horde isn't evil! That's what those 8-15 year old kids think. I was shocked to learn that Humans are the most-played race in WoW. I don't see why you'd play a role-playing fantasy game in which you play a human who fishes and kill rats for a few copper an hour.

Why do they think the horde is evil? Back in the days of the Burning Legion and all that, a bunch of mind-controlled Orcs invaded Azeroth and pwned humanity. Now they are no longer mind-controlled, and are really quite likeable.

Trolls? Probably looked at as evil because a great many of them are under corrupt magicks. The Darkspear Trolls, however, are completely independent, full of free will, and only JOKE about cannibalism (it's like people making fun of their Mormon friends for polygamy. It's no longer an issue but still a joke) They don't just have mohawks! Have you ever seen the ponytail look? Get the vibrantly red hair and you're gonna look amazing in gladiator gear.

Taurens: SOMEONE DIDN'T WANT TO COME OUT OF THEIR BIG GEE ELF TREE PARTY TO HELP THEM WHEN THE CENTAURS WERE COMMITTING GENOCIDE ON THESE PEACEFUL PEOPLE. But Thrall had the freaking COMPASSION to do so. He didn't stand to gain any kind of profit by doing so, but he was willing to let his own loyal Orcish horde men DIE just so the cows wouldn't.

Undead: They did not ask to be undead. These are humans that died and were resurrected by the Lich King. Then, Lady Sylvannas Windrunner (a Highbourne banshee) liberated them from his power, and they regained their own memories as they awoke in their burial places. If they die, they become part of the Twisting Nether, and this is their greatest fear (as afterlife concepts go, it's one of the least comfortable-sounding. Nobody's gonna twist my nether!)

So what is the alliance? Humans and Draenei have this concept of "The Light", and have decided that everything else is evil. If you don't pray to the same gods they do, you must be cleansed off the face of Azeroth. (Unless, of course, you're a Draenei shaman or a human who enslaves succubi and stuff) The Night Elves abandoned the Taurens in their hour of need, but now that the World Tree has fallen and they've lost their immortality, they need allies in this world so they pranced on down to Stormwind. The Humans abandoned their undead relatives, hence "The Forsaken". Admiral Proudmoore royally screwed over the Orcish allies. The "Nobles" of Stormwind City royally screwed over the masons who built the city, saying that they had no reason to pay them. (Get to know Edwin Van Cleef for more information on this, I don't spoiler things). Gnomes were forced to abandon their city because they were invaded by a bunch of radioactive cavemen, but despite their annoyingness they don't go out of their way to hurt any particular race or belief system.

The Dwarves are veterans, every last one. They'll all die to protect what they believe in, instead of sitting in a cathedral or up a tree or on a robot chicken or in a crashed spaceship preaching about crap. The first Dwarves were the Dwarven Sappers, who ONLY gave their lives to take enemy lives. I have no problem with them, and when the people in my office told me they were alliance (blech) I figured this was the only race to be while retaining my critical thinking skills and freedom of speech.

So that's it. Go alliance, Dwarf, but then you can't be 25 shamans. So make your 25 Draenei Shamans, proud members of the Spacegoat race, all of whom are "broken" or slaves in the Outlands.

-or-

Roll horde, always enjoy shorter queue times for battlegrounds (while the alliance is standing around waiting for a chance to slip in), and know that you're just trying to live a peaceful life while you are viciously hunted by those stupid fascists who care more about revenge for the war of their grandfathers than helping their own people (Sorry Westfall and Redridge, we can't spare any troops. Lady Kathera Prestor, a.k.a. Lady Onyxia, says you gotta start your own militia because we need them all elsewhere)

FOR THE HORDE!

[Zub]

Mostly I plan to do Lake Wintergrasp, given its still in beta we don't know how it will play out but for sure there are rewards to holding it, I can get all 26 in, and surely it will be highly contested on most all servers if there are good loots to be had which seems the case.

Damn, i wrote a full answer but it got thrown in the nether on a webpage error >.<

In short i was saying:
- Don't base your choice on the realm info sites. Their info is not accurate, and in any case it will all have changed by the time you're 70-80.
I would suggest you pick a realm that gives you a good ping, and that has a history of good uptime.

- Unless i'm confusing it with another zone, i believe Lake Wintergrasp will be a contested PVP zone no matter what type of realm you're on (PVE or PVP)
So basically everyone will be flagged. If you plan to camp there, then it doesn't matter if you're on a pve or pvp server. (have to double check that)

- Horde is not evil. Ugly perhaps, but not evil. Some *classes* might be evil, but they exist on both factions.
Create a level 1 tauren and see how peaceful their dwellings are. Perfect harmony with nature and elements.

- Alliance is not 12 years old. Or at least, it's not the only faction with 12yo. This was maybe true 3 years ago, but it's pretty much the same on both sides now. (and the 12yo are now 15 :-)


Camping Lake wintergrasp all the time will probably become boring very rapidly i think, and most probably the rewards only fit a few armor slots (no idea, will check) so you'll still need to do other stuff as well to gear up your toons.

I would strongly recommend you roll a character on any realm and get it to 20-30 at least the normal way, to get a feel of the game.
First off, it will answer 80% of all the questions you have. Second you'll find out right away if you want to be horde or alliance. Third, you might find out you dislike the game and go to AoC instead >.<

Good luck.

[Bradster]

i started alliance, tried hord after reaching level cap. After trying Horde I never looked back. Besides how else can you kill Gnomes? Overall it felt as if horde worked better as a team and contained more mature players. Being over two years since I've touched the alliance side, i'm sure it's pretty much the same now thanks to Blood Elfs.

To me the horde quest story lines have always had better stories imo.

When it comes down to it the choice is easy however.
Alliance = lets frolic in glee with our cute characters that look pretty
Horde = Think I look ugly? wait until i'm finished smashing your face. It’s all about who’s large and in charge!
Lol before the flames start, please realize I’m joking. Or am I?

[valtrex]

I have always just like horde better for some reason. The starting areas are worse than alliance, the males all have back problems and we look like recessive gene pools all around, but I still love em.

[Dominian]

I must admit that im a hardcore horde player with 5 different classes + my 5 shamans on the way up.. However i do have a mage in the same battlegroup and it feels different to play bgs, the way i feel is that horde in general have ok pvp players but alot doesnt care about the teamplay. While the alliance have certain players who is totaly horrible in everyway but they also have theese guys that for some reason joins in full s3/s4 just to heal his mate wich i rarley see on the horde side. Theese are often skilled and geared healers wich can basicly hold a node vs 5 "ok" players in "ok" gear.


We also had BIG issuses the latest 4 months with starting with 6-7 players less. Do you have this in the US aswell?