No Mage or Warlock MB Arena Teams?

[merujo]

Ur first cast is UA, and they just go to LOS spots, and wait until it goes of. What will u do then? rush them, fear them and pray for ticks to kill someone? i dont think its that simple.

[Dominian]

It will work wonders in the start and against certain teams im not in doubt of that mate but they will figure out whos your UA lock and take advantage of it! You cant get a UA off against a warrior that charges in and even less when the rogue saps your priests and start stunlocking your UA lock.

The key to win is certainly the UA lock i agree on that but it will take a sap+blind and your healer is out of the game.

Facing sl/sl locks in the arena alone isnt any stress since i can negate theyr damage by dispelling.

But imagine a warrior/rogue and a frost mage focusing your UA lock while ignoring the others.

Its impossible to say for 100% but i realy have my doubts in this setup but your very welcome to prove me wrong

[shockernub]

So with 4 SL/SL locks, no UA, you think a healer would be able to keep up the dispelling without having to heal? I would think if you went into the arena, and spread out so everyone couldn't get feared, CC'd at the same time, you would be able to get off a lot of dots before anyone was killed, even if one is focused, you would have 3 casting DOTs on everything, and with deathcoil on round robin, it may be a pretty effective CC of at least one healer, not to mention the 4 felhounds eating away at the healer(s) cast bar.

Sounds fun to me, but I highly doubt I'll get my little lock team to 70 before WOTLK, esp since I still need a ton of gear on my shaman.

[Jackiepaper]

Currently I am boxing Locks in 3's with limited success. As I have worked out variuos strats I fluxuate between 1450 and 1700. Honestly pretty much any team under 1600 I am winning because i just flatout outgear teams at that rating. My goal is to hit 2050 in 3's. For one of the warlocks this is the only team I am playing him on.

The set up I use is 2 Gnome Locks and 1 Human all 3 are geared s2 or better with my main being s4 geared. All of them are boxed on one PC. I have 2200 experience, so from a technical perspective I have a pretty good idea on the class mechanics for arenas. My biggest problem at this point is boxing execution which I think I am turning the corner on. I really heavily on focus macros for cc so not using focus follow/assist macros I think puts me at a disadvantage.

All 3 Locks are Sl/SL. After playing 200+ games with various combinations not only is SL/SL just easier to manage, but when the fight comes down to 1 v 1 an SL lock is just vastly superior.

I use the human with a felhunter as the main and the gnomes with suckies as clones. The idea here is to set up a focus target on a healer or mage with the Felhunter for spelllock and to focus DPS with the suckies for chain seduce. The other added benifit with the suckies is the damage bnonus.

When things go right:

I will pick a target that doesnt have some sort of bubble for primary DPS. Typically warrior, hunter or lock. Once I am sure of my primary DPS target I will send in the suckies for chain seduce on my CC target and engage. The DR on Seduce is pretty bad, but I try to time it so that as seduce wears off 1 second later another one lands. After DR is hit on Seduce I go into a Deathcoil rotation. I can effectively CC for 20-25 seconds. At this point as soon the primary healer shows to heal or dispell I put him into a fear rotation that usually will win the game

Now 3 sets of trinked dots on anything other than a Mage, Rogue or Pally is over 30k damage. If I get one spellock on a healer it can be gg already. At this point assuming there is a healer I will apply 3 sets of dots on the healer making sure to keep tongues up. When I get a good opener agianst teams with out Rogues or Mages I can't remember ever losing.

I don't buy the argument that this can be healed through or dispelled.This isn't being dispelled in 3's so I don't see how it could be dispelled in 5's. When i lose it is because of rogue arena infestation or the other team just cc'd me better and I couldn't get all my dot's up.

[Jaws5]

depends on healer, if a paldin the can bubble once.

also rogues and mages can dump dots very quickly.

If you could full aff 16 dots and life drain drain work great.

problem is lasting until dots tick down. Soul shard can help but only a little.

[Ellay]

In 5's, there is usuallyl 2 dedicated healers usually a main healer and one that is offhealing an dispelling. Such as 2345 uses a Paladin for main healing and a Priest for dispels and whatnot, Euro comp is the same with Druid main healing and priest dispelling.

[Ellay]

Good luck though on your goal of 2050, I do hope you make it Would enjoy a different flavor besides Shaman x1101010000101010!

[Mosg2]

Ellay, any comment on what you think would be the second most competitive 4x for Arenas?

[Mosg2]

Some rough numbers for everyone's edification (+1100 spell damage):

Corruption: 900dmg over 18 seconds, gets 129.5% of spell damage, +15%dmg from talents: 2675dmg over 18 = 148dps
Siphon Life: 630dmg over 30 seconds, gets 100% of spell damage, 10%dmg from talents: 1900dmg over 30 = 63dps
Curse of Agony: 1356dmg over 24 seconds, gets 100% of spell damage, +25%dmg from talents: 3070 over 24 = 128dps

Total dps for one Warlock via dots: 339dps
Total dps for four Warlocks via dots: 1359dps

That's rough, but... That's probably 15+ seconds of 4x dots to kill someone that does not have any removed and does not receive any healing. Now, that's fire-and-forget power but you're still talking about 4.5 total seconds of GCD to get that on someone AND assuming nobody is CC'd at all.

Not near as much damage as I was thinking about. Definitely going to go Priest now methinks.

[Ellay]

It's a toss up without actually being able to do it myself between Shadow Priest / Warlock / Hunter.

I think any combo can get to 1750, I'm just looking at areas where the breakdown of the team composition is too hard to overcome.

A really good thing Shadow Priests have going for them at the moment is Psychic scream having a 4 second horror effect in the expansion. This will allow you to load up a Mind Blast -> SW: D -> and then Mind Flay to finish. I can see that being the bread and butter. I would envision a fight going as such.. SW:P 2 targets to make their healers try to dispel ( note they have to dispel a ton of additional magical effects, 4 stack of Shadow Weaving, Misery) on top of the 4 SW:P. At this point you can either switch to a completely new target and do the above mentioned combo or on one your working down on.
Blackout procing will happen quite often allowing the target to stay stunned in place. If you get in trouble the new 51 point talent is pretty close to a Iceblock with HP/MP healed.

Warlocks are sort of in the same scenario, but without the bursting down. They have an insane amount of dots to apply - I'd say go for 2-3 targets, fully dot then try to survive yourself by utilizing drain life on one of the targets for the kill (I'd need to actually play the class at 70 to get a better feel for tactics).

Hunters is a verrrrry bursty class. I have 4x 63 Hunters right now, I'm somewhat bored leveling them but with the right gear you can be close to having that 1 shot effect Shamans do but at a larger range and much faster. Auto Shot + Arcane Shot + Multi Shot within a 1-2~ second time frame is GG. And the pets with their 3 second stun from stealth can set up an easy kill.

Even Druids could be the next big thing, but I have no experience with them.