No focus manifesto users, a few questions:

[unseen]

I've been living so far (only level 27) with the no focus manifesto, and wanted to get some input on how I could potentially improve just a few things.

I have all my macros on all clones set to target my main and cast off of targettarget. This works great except for the random times that blizzard makes my clones target a pat walking by, a different mob, something that looks at them funny, a rock, themselves, or nothing.

In order to combat this, I have a specific button (bound to e) that targets my main (or the next person in line if he dies) that I hit constantly when casting to make sure my characters get the right target. This seems to have taken care of them targeting the wrong stuff about 95% of the time, even if it's a bit annoying. Is there a better way to do this? I don't want to add "/target main, or clone if he's dead" into all my macros as I see this is very inefficient.

My other quirk: setting focus is laggy.

I have a button that sets focus for a warlock. In essence, it assists my main, sets focus on that target, says "I set my focus to %t", then goes back to targeting my main.

The problem I'm having with this is that I'll target a new mob and tell my warlock to set it as their focus and they'll set the mob I had targeted a few seconds ago. Sometimes I will play this game 2 or 3 times before he sets his focus to the right mob. This is pretty aggravating and I've had to learn to stay calm when I get adds, because getting my warlocks to have their voids pick up the correct adds can take me a try or two. Is there a better way to set focus? Or is this as good as it gets?

Ah, additional bonus question:
When my main dies and I switch quickly to clone-second-in-command, his hotbar is set to have all his spells cast off of targettarget, which obviously doesn't work well for him. To work around this I've copied all my characters spells in the same order to hotbar 2. So now I switch to second-in-command, switch my hotbar to #2 and I can cast spells with all my clones assisting off me. I thought this was kind of a clever way around it, but is there a better way?

[unseen]

Why are you opposed to using focus for targeting?

You know you can't go into battlegrounds without using focus, right? You're macros will fail if you're not in group 1 (which is highly unlikely)

I use focus for CC (which at this point is just sending my voids at them).

I don't plan on doing any BG's, this is just for PVE, but my macros would work just fine in BG's. My position in the group or raid doesn't matter, either. I've kept them as modular as possible so that even if I sub in totally new people to be my main I just have to update 4 macros (one across each character) and I'm ready to go.

[cepheus]

step 1:
Use trinity bars

Step 2:
Make the following macro on TrinityActionButton60 (or another action button)
/target [target=focus,help][target=toon1,help,nodead] [target=toon2,help,nodead] [target=toon3,help,nodead] [target=toon1] ( you have to modify this for each of your toons to set the proper order for main)

Step 3:
Make 5 different macros for all your toons to set a friendly focus, this way you avoid the focus set macro if you have a keybinding for each of them

Step 4:
Make all your attack macros like:
/click TrinityActionButton60
/assist
/cast Lightning Bolt

Result:

You will assist focus if it is friendly. So you can use your focus to select main if you wish. If you dont have focus or a hostile focus you will assist in the selected order. Making your focus free for cc and other purposes.

[Littleburst]

Why are you opposed to using focus for targeting?

You know you can't go into battlegrounds without using focus, right? You're macros will fail if you're not in group 1 (which is highly unlikely)

#showtooltip Lightning bolt
/cast [target=Littleburst-target,exists,harm,nodead] [target=Líttleburst-target,exists,harm,nodead] [target=Lìttleburst-target,exists,harm,nodead] [target=Lïttleburst-target,exists,harm,nodead] Lightning Bolt

Works like a charm. I grinded 12k honor with that. I could still be missing something though

[unseen]

Why are you opposed to using focus for targeting?

You know you can't go into battlegrounds without using focus, right? You're macros will fail if you're not in group 1 (which is highly unlikely)

#showtooltip Lightning bolt
/cast [target=Littleburst-target,exists,harm,nodead] [target=Líttleburst-target,exists,harm,nodead] [target=Lìttleburst-target,exists,harm,nodead] [target=Lïttleburst-target,exists,harm,nodead] Lightning Bolt

Works like a charm. I grinded 12k honor with that. I could still be missing something though

Except if you switch up your team composition then you have to change every macro that you cast on.

Additionally, with the macro limit in wotlk you'll have to rewrite all of them to fit the 256 character limit.

Make all your attack macros like:
/click TrinityActionButton60
/assist
/cast Lightning Bolt

Holy crap I didn't know this was possible. I thought this type of thing had been specifically blocked when BC came out - glad I'm wrong! I've used bongos in the past (currently my clones only have one mod loaded, multiboxer, to limit memory usage), and if it's not possible in that I'll check out trinityactionbars. This will be an excellent solution to most of the quirks if it works as easily as you say it does! much thanks!