Mining OP progress

[Meeo]

To further expand

the general rough rule of thumb for high sec grav sites is that the ores will be the equivalent to a system of one or two security statuses lower.

Ie, in a 0.9 you'd expect to find stuff like Omber, which you'd find in a 0.7.
In a 0.8 you'd find something like a bit of Kernite, obviously found in 0.6 and below.
In a 0.6 you could get some Jaspet or similar.

Or you just find bigger roids.

The rats that spawn in the belts will not be harder then anything currently in the system.

Also, Gravs sites have to be probed out as stated above.
To probe things out you will need Science 2 or 3 and the Astrometrics Skill, you generally want astrometrics 4 or 5, to be able to launch enough probes to scan it down faster.

There are several youtube/guides online for probing, i currently do not have know of them offhand, i would also have to look them up.

Edit: Also take note that you may run into other anomalies when you start probing things. I would highly recommend staying away from Wormholes, until your are more comfortable with the game.

[Yopie Ismypie]

I started playing Eve about 6 months ago and I can honestly say it has the steepest learning curve I have ever experienced in a MMO!!

Right now I am playing on 7 accounts with a setup of:

3 Hulk miners
1 Orca/ trader
1 Freighter/soon to be hulk miner
1 inventor/manufacturer
1 Pvp pilot

6 of my guys are into PI and they live in 0.0 space.

The indy stuff is good, but for me the pvp is where I am having the most fun.

All the other toons are there just to support my pvp habit...lol!

[Mickthathick]

Damn I shouldn't of read this thread, I put my 3 accounts to bed about 4 or 5 months ago after realising that I had paid good money for the third account to just have it sit there and train skills

Kinda over WoW a little though, maybe I might start playing again this week...

[RobinGBrown]

This is all off of memory since I haven't played in a while.

-Exploration isn't very skill intensive to start. You just need one of the racial frigs with scanning bonuses. More skills just shorten your scan times and make your scans more accurate.

-I don't remember seeing anything in a grav site that was bigger than a frig.

-I did all my exploration in high sec.

Spawns at exploration sites will be in line with the security rating of the system and the size of the site. There's some exploration guides on the evelopedia site - look in the main EVE site forums for the guides section there will be links there.

[Redbeard]

I read some info on it... seems like it might be a big time investment doing the probing before I can find the sites though, hrm.

[d0z3rr]

Can someone guess exactly how many days IRL it would take before you can do the probing?

[Duane]

Probing isn't that skill intensive:

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Probing#Skills

Astrometrics requires Science 3 as does Astrometric Rangefinding.

[RobinGBrown]

I don't think Redbeard meant that it would take time for his characters to train the astrometrics skills but that it would take time for him to actually do the probing task himself.

Probing is one of the few actual player skills in EVE and it takes a lot of real time to practice and get good at it as it's quite counterintuitive at first (or the GUI is badly designed!) it's also a bit hit and miss as you always find a lot of wormholes but not very many mining sites as there's a good chance there will be no gravimetric site in a given system.

So scanning for gravimetric sites in order to clean them out with miners means probing down signals in a whole constellation which might take an hour or three before you can fleet up and start mining, all for only a small upgrade in the quality or quantity of the ore to be mined.

[Duane]

I don't think Redbeard meant that it would take time for his characters to train the astrometrics skills but that it would take time for him to actually do the probing task himself.

Probing is one of the few actual player skills in EVE and it takes a lot of real time to practice and get good at it as it's quite counterintuitive at first (or the GUI is badly designed!) it's also a bit hit and miss as you always find a lot of wormholes but not very many mining sites as there's a good chance there will be no gravimetric site in a given system.

So scanning for gravimetric sites in order to clean them out with miners means probing down signals in a whole constellation which might take an hour or three before you can fleet up and start mining, all for only a small upgrade in the quality or quantity of the ore to be mined.

I'm not a great player by any means and it never took me more than 15 - 20 minutes to probe a site down in a frig with scanning bonuses.

[Redbeard]

Yes Robin has it right... at this point my main guy has 52m SP and 5m sitting banked that i can spend on whatever that i got back from learning skills.. so not worried about the skill investment.

If its 15 or 20 minutes and it will give me rocks that will last more than 1.5 cycles from an exhumer, sounds like it might be worthwhile. If its a few hours then definitely not.

Hrm.