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    Removing IWT won't kill the game for boxers, although melee comps will be much harder to box.
    It will kill the game, for many disabled people who only have one functional hand...

    We get a lot from the feature, but it probably wasn't designed to make boxing easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wonz View Post
    Think about what happened to the "twink"-community. That could happen to muliboxers as well.
    and from an earlier post

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    Gosh. Good i dont need to chose only one. I surely would quit playing a little bit later because of frustration.
    I would suggest that you are correct sir. I suspect a significant number of mb'ers would leave the game rather than resort to playing a single toon. That may be a fundamental difference between the twink and boxing communities.

    I suspect, however, that the demographic, associated income, and potential for "organization" (as mentioned earlier this site represents a community of 31,800 members) may factor in to any long term decision Bliz makes. Just my 0.02
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    The new post: It's Time to end multiboxing....proof inside

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    The 20 boxer was VERY sophisticated, he could heal CC AND do dmg simultaneously. This wasn't a primitive boxer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wonz View Post
    They still can make multiboxing impossible, but still allow people to have more than one account.

    Think about removing /follow. Think about changing macro core mechanics (as like comma seperated castsequences), think about removing interact with target and others.

    That wont hurt people with two accounts, but would infact make multiboxing using 3rd party software and macros impossible.

    And no, we are not very many, there would be no real loss for blizzard if they would technically disable multiboxing. Blizzard does no big money from multiboxers.

    I guess its a simple calculation. Once a considerable amount of people quits because blizzard does tolerate multiboxing, they will change their mind.

    Think about what happened to the "twink"-community. That could happen to muliboxers as well.
    You are acting as if everyone who doesn't multibox is against it or would quit the game if it's not banned. The people actually against multiboxing and might actually quit is a very small minority and most of them liars and won't quit in the end.

    Blizz would rather lose that small minority than the multiboxers. Another thing is they dislike being strongarmed into decisions.

    There is NOTHING in WOW designed to help multiboxers specifically. The fact that we use IWT/follow/macros is nothing as plenty of other people who've never multiboxed or heard of it use those features. Where you get the idea these things were designed for us is beyond me. They have many other uses and have actually improved them over time- they aren't going to take them out.

    I'm telling you guys this shit blows up a couple of times a year when some whiner who got pwned in a BG gets on the forums and causes a big stink. Or it's something unique like the dude 20 boxing AV. It'll blow over and be forgottenjust like all the other times.

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    One mechanic or terms of service change could end all of this, and it wouldn't surprise me. To hold onto the idea that they won't get rid of us because we pay for multiple accounts is foolish. There are over 11 million subscribers, safe to say about 10.99 million of which are not multiboxers. For a product that pulls >$160,000,000 per month in revenue, I don't feel like I'm safe just because I pay $75 per month and that the entire multiboxing community combined probably accounts for less than $100k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonz View Post
    They still can make multiboxing impossible, but still allow people to have more than one account.

    Think about removing /follow. Think about changing macro core mechanics (as like comma seperated castsequences), think about removing interact with target and others.

    That wont hurt people with two accounts, but would infact make multiboxing using 3rd party software and macros impossible.

    And no, we are not very many, there would be no real loss for blizzard if they would technically disable multiboxing. Blizzard does no big money from multiboxers.

    I guess its a simple calculation. Once a considerable amount of people quits because blizzard does tolerate multiboxing, they will change their mind.

    Think about what happened to the "twink"-community. That could happen to muliboxers as well.
    Good point. Removing IWT and follow wouldnt prevent all boxing but it would defintely eliminate boxers from being competitive in PvP. One fear and forget about sync'ed keyboard movement. You could still crawl your way through instances and do some less complicated encounters.

    I do agree that the amount of people that actually leave due to multiboxers is probably a mere fraction of the people who actually multibox and blizzard knows this.
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    This is a storm in a teacup. Despite Zahryms (sp?) poorly worded and overly brief post in the thread, I'd be HUGELY surprised if Blizzard, after all this time, decided to ban, or deliberately gimp, multiboxing.
    ...for when one toon just isn't enough...

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    It would be simple enough to program a computer to comunicate with a bunch of another computers through the keyboard (usb) port, using keyboard signals, so it would be impossible to determine if you were multiboxing or not. Just throw in some random delays and some random spell choices and problem solved ...... You could only have one client per computer though but thats also no problem if you buy a bunch of cheapo computers. Of course you wouldnt be able to brag about it lol .....

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    then again, not everyone multiboxes to be able to brag ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by heyaz View Post
    I don't feel like I'm safe just because I pay $75 per month and that the entire multiboxing community combined probably accounts for less than $100k.
    Hmm lets do the math.

    Members: 31800
    Say 10% is doing 5 man: 3180
    Monthly Revenue: 3180 x 5 x 15 = $238,500/month <- A CEO will jizz in his pants if he lose this amount of money

    Note that not all boxers are members of dual-boxing


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