Quote Originally Posted by Coltimar View Post
I had tons more fun in vanilla WoW. I did all of the dungeons, literally, hundreds of times and had fun doing so. The raids were fun. It kind of reminded me of work where you would collaborate with a ton of people on a job, then go have fun with a few 'coworkers' afterwords farming rep, mats or dungeons for fun. May sound like a bad analogy but I have always loved going to work.
Coltimar, if you think about what you wrote, it's not the game you miss, it's the people. Would you have had as much fun if you'd had to run those instances hundreds of times with strangers, who don't talk to you?

That's what vanilla was for me - the game was worse, but the class of player was better. I ran those same instances with 2 guilds, one of which i was in for almost all of vanilla, and half of BC. We were a family, and I'd log in just to chit chat or do officer stuff, and later GM stuff when I ran it for a little while. It was'nt the game - we could have been playing Hello Kitty Island, it was the people. I *cared* about my guild, so logging in on a Saturday afternoon to attune a few in MC was no big deal, or running UBRS yet again to get someone their gear - no problem. I knew all 3 Blackrock instances like the back of my hand, had all of the loot tables for the bosses memorized, because one of my duties as an officer was to help build and gear an MC team.

Would I do that for strangers? Hell no.

The raids themselves are really not "fun", after a few runs. There is no "fun" in MC, except the moment of the kill when you pull the handle on the loot slot machine, and see what you got. The fun was the same old jokes from guildies, the goofing around, the comraderie. In all honesty, BWL is a major pain in my ass and I'll be happy never to see it again. ZG was just as annoying - I still want to go back and burn that fucking bat boss down a few times, for all of the wipes and frustration she caused us. We HATED ZG, but it was the gear we needed, so we went, and we had fun because we knew each other, even though we'd spend two hours wiping.

My best memory pre-boxing was in my old guild, where me and 4 others went to Setthek Halls Heroic, and never got to the first boss after an hour (okay, maybe more than that) because we were laughing so hard at each other. That's what will bring me back to a game time after time - the instance itself, whatever.

I honestly think a lot of people are giving the game entirely too much credit, when the people you played with deserve it - and that experience CAN be repeated now, in this era of pugging and greed and idiocy, it just may take more work to find a guild you're comfy with.